US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Phoenix]

I think it automatically ensures no contract worth a damn as long as usapa is around, if a contract at all.

The fact that the Nic will be the seniority list of any contract at LCC is a foregone conclusion.

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Yes, you need "foregone" to spell "reef goon".

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I think it automatically ensures no contract worth a damn as long as usapa is around, if a contract at all.

The fact that the Nic will be the seniority list of any contract at LCC is a foregone conclusion.

usapa's negotiating capital is Gone with the Wind!

OUCH!,,,,,,,, maybe after the cards are thrown, that conclusion will be foregone! Surprises ahead, TAKE CARE! MM!

 

[nic4us]

Yes, you need "foregone" to spell "reef goon".

With the Ansett tie...that is actually very funny.

 

[Move2CLT]

Pi, some are quick to think the TA requires the company to only accept ALPA's seniority integration proposal, and there might even be some that think the company would be liable otherwise, but they fail to simply accept that the 9th removed the injunction. Besides, under the old ALPA scheme, what pray tell was the company to do if any group vetoed the proposal? Pray tell why the company wouldn't just "Accept a new seniority integration proposal from the Bargaining Agent, provided it does not result in the afformentioned certain additional costs."

You are correct. The company didn't have to accept the proposal when it first came out if it didn't meet the company's requirements.

The Nic met those requirements and was subsequently accepted by Parker who has it today.

If the company does decide to throw out the Nic, they know a lawsuit would hit them hard and fast. If they felt free to accept whatever list USAPA presented, they would have done so already.

And the injunction was lifted but USAPA did not pass a new list. Why? Though free to negotiate, they have an unquestionable ripe DFR hanging over their head.

Like I keep saying, if it could happen it would have happened. It hasn't so it won't.

 

[Pi brat]

Clear? Aquaman?

You guys going to let BillyJoeJimbob carry our water?

 

[cleardirect]

Clear? Aquaman?

You guys going to let BillyJoeJimbob carry our water?

He is doing just fine. Any more would be piling on. How many times do you need to be told and proven you are wrong?

 

[Pi brat]

He is doing just fine. Any more would be piling on. How many times do you need to be told and proven you are wrong?

You Sir have NEVER proven me wrong. You just run off with your tail between your legs. Old Jimbob, yeah I have to give him some credit, he's gotten some zingers in, but heck, what else does he have to do?

Now, what was it you said about the PID? It was all that mattered?

 

[flybynite]

I take it you haven't seen USAPAs amazing comprehensive proposal.

Pretty much gave away the farm in exchange for DOH.

I take it that you haven't seen USAPA's proposal....I have.

And what you just said is a lie. <_<

Now why is that?

 

[Move2CLT]

Yes, I have seen it. It gutted all of the west's good items in exchange for crap the benefits the east.

What you say is a lie.

 

[Move2CLT]

You Sir have NEVER proven me wrong. You just run off with your tail between your legs. Old Jimbob, yeah I have to give him some credit, he's gotten some zingers in, but heck, what else does he have to do?

Now, what was it you said about the PID? It was all that mattered?

Speaking of running off with your tail between your legs, I see you've made it back.

 

[flybynite]

Yes, I have seen it. It gutted all of the west's good items in exchange for crap the benefits the east.

What you say is a lie.

Prove it...........

 

[Beancounter]

Prove it...........

-Vacation time
-Vacation bidding
-STD
-LTD
-Check airman pay
-RON, duty, & rig rules
-Dead head pay, including no middle seat for dead head
-Min fleet protection
-Crew meals
etc.
etc.
etc.

A lot of east pilots are wanting the west pilots to come to the table to talk. Why? You can flat out give us the NIC and we're still gonna get screwed by the NAC. Why would we consider anything less than what was agreed to which was the NIC when this cr@p is going on.

 

[cynic]

A lot of east pilots are wanting the west pilots to come to the table to talk. Why? You can flat out give us the NIC and we're still gonna get screwed by the NAC. Why would we consider anything less than what was agreed to which was the NIC when this cr@p is going on.

From the sound of the east negotiating team, you could actually come out with something better than the NIC if you do agree to sit down with them. 😀

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Prove it...........

Now, that is going to make her work and, possibly, think, something she is not used to doing.

 

[Pi brat]

Speaking of running off with your tail between your legs, I see you've made it back.

Yeah, it took a while. I was rightfully suspended for calling you what I did, twice. Thing is, they made it permanent by mistake instead of the 3 days. It took a while to get an answer from someone, but a moderator took care of it.

For those that enjoy the eloquent prose of move2clt, let me explain my comment to him. One of our posters had a tragic family event. I sent move a pm asking him to take it easy on the guy. Big mistake in giving him any credit as a human being. He profanely replied that he would not, then promptly came to the forum and goaded the guy. That's what we are dealing with. My assessment of you has been confirmed, but it was against the rules to say what I did. I support the moderators in their actions and hope they continue. As a matter of fact, haven't seen res jude in a while.