US Pilots Labor Discussion

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

So, that is good enough evidence for you? Really?

You admit you have no proof, yet you make such statements? Are you proud of that?

Well our CEO, the "LEAD BY EXAMPLE TEAM TEMPE", Has lost millions in failed takeover attempts, wrong way fuel hedging, bad derivative tradeing(their own fault, will sue to justify), and let's buy shitty realestate, to the point of were almost out of cash,well that SCOTT AND HIS GIRLFRIEND THING IN MANCHESTER UK! Isn't unbeleivable, just as DUI DOUG and his driving record! MM!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Let those emotions fly Baby! BTW, there was no theft. It was just another USAPA boon-dogle. Could you be so high strung just because M2C knows how to push your buttons?

NO buttons cold hard facts, 9TH CIRCUIT APPEAL, NAUGHLER(silver will ripen it) LOA93(game changer) ,alot of factors, BTW their was theft or DUI just gave you the info? MM!

 

[mrbreeze]

So, that is good enough evidence for you? Really?

You admit you have no proof, yet you make such statements? Are you proud of that?

As I said, that is my opinion.....so show me where I am off base....I am open to that. I never claimed it as fact, just that I thought it was peculiar that his appearence here has some resemblance to the timeline as stated.

Why are you so defensive over this?

Did I hit a nerve?

Is my guess right?

breeze

 

[traderjake]

.....BTW their was theft ........MM!

Hey, nice grammar!!!

 

[Move2CLT]

Well our CEO, the "LEAD BY EXAMPLE TEAM TEMPE", Has lost millions in failed takeover attempts, wrong way fuel hedging, bad derivative tradeing(their own fault, will sue to justify), and let's buy shitty realestate, to the point of were almost out of cash,well that SCOTT AND HIS GIRLFRIEND THING IN MANCHESTER UK! Isn't unbeleivable, just as DUI DOUG and his driving record! MM!

Wrong way fuel hedging?

 

[Move2CLT]

NO buttons cold hard facts, 9TH CIRCUIT APPEAL, NAUGHLER(silver will ripen it) LOA93(game changer) ,alot of factors, BTW their was theft or DUI just gave you the info? MM!

Since when is ripeness an issue with Naughler?

 

[767one]

What's going on with that anyway? Are they still off the line? That's a lot of money.

I guess the investigation that is not taking place is taking a long time. If they are found guilty in the noninvestigation I wonder if they have to give the money back?


Bob

 

[prechilill]

I guess the investigation that is not taking place is taking a long time. If they are found guilty in the noninvestigation I wonder if they have to give the money back?


Bob

In English please, I'm definitely curious what you are thinking. Thanks!

 

[Pi brat]

Yes, Pi we..er..they are off line. And with the way the TD is backed up with 73 guys moving to the Bus, it'll be a few more months minimum before we..er..they get back on the line.

Getting paid line average and holidays off. Home every night too.

Thank you USAPA.

Man, I wish I could get my hands on some S.S.#s. At least they weren't accused of something really bad like not finishing their DL!

 

[Pi brat]

In English please, I'm definitely curious what you are thinking. Thanks!

Hey chil, just wanted to let you know that I like the new avatar. Col. Sanders looks much better than you in your winter coat. Thanks. ;-)

 

[Keroseneuser]

Just saw on another thread where the newhires are going on the busses and 737's on the east. Thats the ones already on property. Guessing from the latest bid the 44 newhires they mention on the march bid will be 190's and busses.

Still looks like Tempe really wants to get that transition agreement out of the way so they can move equipment east. I am sure some of it is to avoid the pilot shortages we had last summer for this coming summer. But we were not that short. I guess it could be that a bunch of guys are planning an early out prior to 65. Have talked to a few that are set to go early this coming year but don't think the number is that high. Maybe a bit of training float figured in there for the 737 retiement schedule. Anybody remember what the bus delivery rate was for next year?

 

[cactusboy53]

....Still looks like Tempe really wants to get that transition agreement out of the way so they can move equipment east. I am sure some of it is to avoid the pilot shortages we had last summer for this coming summer. But we were not that short. I guess it could be that a bunch of guys are planning an early out prior to 65. Have talked to a few that are set to go early this coming year but don't think the number is that high. Maybe a bit of training float figured in there for the 737 retirement schedule. Anybody remember what the bus delivery rate was for next year?

I'm not a Mathematics Major, but how exactly does infusing MORE aircraft from the west to the east help a perceived "pilot shortage". Even IF those aircraft came with crew from the west, it still doesn't change the perceived "pilot shortage" dynamic. Right??

 

[Keroseneuser]

I'm not a Mathematics Major, but how exactly does infusing MORE aircraft from the west to the east help a perceived "pilot shortage". Even IF those aircraft came with crew from the west, it still doesn't change the perceived "pilot shortage" dynamic. Right??

The pilot shortage comment was a possible reason for the newhires. But given that Tempe never overstaffs and the pilot shortage didnt end up with cancelled flights that I know of, just the reserves running 6 days a week for 6 months straight. I don't think that can account for the hiring.

thats why I also asked if anybody remembered what the airbus delivery schedule was for 2012. If nobody is leaving yet like you guys love to point out, and we don't have any new aircraft coming in any big numbers. where is the time coming from to require the new folks? I was under the impression that the only busses we had coming were to replace the 737's. 12 or 13 next year seems to stick in mind, but cannot remember.

 

[Pi brat]

Without disclosing any personal information can you guys give me an idea of the bottom captain out west? Thanks.

 

[Move2CLT]

Without disclosing any personal information can you guys give me an idea of the bottom captain out west? Thanks.

He's a nice guy. Family man. Lives out in Gilbert.

Hobbies include RC and running.