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Hmmmmm.

How about this.

It's THEIR fault, not yours. They voted in LOA93 but you are willing to stay with their decision because it's better than the Nic.

You disagree with LOA93 but you embrace it.

Better?
Now that cracks me up!!! Irrefutable logic. I never thought about it that way. That's funny! Thats really funny! LMFAO!!!!
 
So where are we as of today 12/14/2011? The east still waiting for Parker to just give them parity or are they ready to accept responsibility for their actions and move on??

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US Airways-America West JNC Contract, What USAPA Gave Up, Part 2 of 9

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Update for December 15, 2011

Quick Fact #212: In the fall of 2007 the ALPA JNC provided the MECs a "close out" update with the status of ALPA JNC Negotiations. Quick Fact #212 is part two of a nine part series focusing on what USAPA gave up with details from the ALPA Negotiating Committee's documents and the Notetaker's notes. Should the pilots consider a different direction than what USAPA is proposing?

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I think that you may have inadvertantly summed up in a single statement, the core philosophical difference between the east and west position, and possibly in a larger sense one's world view. Some people do NOT subscribe to the theory of: they are "just words that matter not!" and some do. I believe that the relationship between a man's word and his actions are the sum of his character. Can we call you "honest father abe" or not? (no reply necessary, that question is rhetorical)

FIfi,
Good post! Actually stopped and thought before replying.
I like your philosophy , assumptions not so sure of. Would be a good conversation over a few beers. However I think these type chats result in little if any ( sans venting ) valid communication. Am an optimist and therefore believe both sides of this Nic believe in their righteous position and therefor relay honesty. When I claim " words matter not " I am referring their effect on Nic outcome and persuading opposite view to change position. I think they ( words ) mostly reflect feelings and therefore irrelevant .
These post full of slander and insults are girly and childish ! Do you agree?
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US Airways-America West JNC Contract, What USAPA Gave Up, Part 2 of 9

Dear Subscriber,

Update for December 15, 2011

Quick Fact #212: In the fall of 2007 the ALPA JNC provided the MECs a "close out" update with the status of ALPA JNC Negotiations. Quick Fact #212 is part two of a nine part series focusing on what USAPA gave up with details from the ALPA Negotiating Committee's documents and the Notetaker's notes. Should the pilots consider a different direction than what USAPA is proposing?

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http://www.unbiasedfacts.org/2-STATUS-OF-ALPA-JNC-NEGOTIATONS-9-18-07.pdf

PI Brat and the rest of the USAPA excuse makers, read the above link again and tell me how you feel having basically five years wasted. Thanks.

P.S. Some of you easties are just plain nuts. Enjoy your self- induced LOA93 hell.
 
19. Investigation and Discipline T/A - 12/7/05
20. Grievances T/A - 12/7/05
21. System Board of Adjustment T/A - 12/7/05
22. Seniority T/A - 11/30/05

I love it... sections 19-22 weren't even open, all handled by the T/A. Guess seniority isn't like crew meals afterall.

Feeling a little used out east?

You guys have been duped and Seham has walked away with 7 million of your dues. If you all on here weren't such a$$hats I would actually feel sorry for you guys.
 
So, if seniority itsn't settled how do you USAP zealots feel about this:

29. Agency Shop and Dues Check-Off T/A - 11/30/05


"Uhhh Uhhh... well that's different because uhhh, that's not a crew meal"

Feelin' duped? Probably not, you guys have done even dumber things in the past- ops normal...
 
So, if seniority itsn't settled how do you USAP zealots feel about this:

29. Agency Shop and Dues Check-Off T/A - 11/30/05


"Uhhh Uhhh... well that's different because uhhh, that's not a crew meal"

Feelin' duped? Probably not, you guys have done even dumber things in the past- ops normal...
I was looking and chuckling at the same thing!
 

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