US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Crzipilot]

Mr Furloughee, it is quite simple. Look at sections 19-22 and then look at section 6 and tell me the difference.

Answer: section 6 was closed out for negotiations, sections 19-22 were closed out the day the TA was signed. Now, do you see a difference? Didn't think so, you're about as sharp as PIB and need a court (Silver) to tell you this five years after the fact. But, like PIB, the west will gladly welcome your tardy enlightenment delivered on a silver spoon from district court...

Your truly showing your naivety and lack of experience within the industry. Good luck with that....

 

[prechilill]

Closed, as in they are in effect? Wow when you bidding CLT? Didn't know that a party can't go back and revise something that has already been T/A'd. You guys grasping at straws or what?

Ummm, a vote needs to happen dude. I know you only have a couple years on the property (like 9 -piece) but the TA addressed the issues like seniority negotations (which are really east/ west negotiations and not pilot/ company negotiations) and that is why they are referenced to the TA and not just listed as "closed" by the JNC.
USAPA's DOH monster is gasping for air... the last breath will probably be some time around April.

 

[prechilill]

Your truly showing your naivety and lack of experience within the industry. Good luck with that....

Let me guess, you never went to college?

Enjoy the "silver" spoon from PHX district court.

Where are you based, btw? CLT? I'm heading that way soon! Take care 😀

 

[Pi brat]

Are you going to push for that appeal Pi? Some of your buddies here want to take it to the Supremes.

Do you Pi?

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!

I've taken pre's advice and enjoyed LOA 93, so what's another few years to finally see something out to the end. That way nobody will be able to say "It's not my fault! You guys quit in the middle again!".

As a matter of fact, I've talked a friend into keeping his idea of how to end this to himself and join the march on the SCOTUS! 🙂

 

[Pi brat]

That's just it, my track record is solid.

Just because it doesn't sit with your paradigm doesn't make it wrong.


Keep up.

Date of LOA 93 decision. CIRP committee pulled off the line. Multiple consecutive profitable quarters for AWA prior to the merger. I've laid it all our for you uhaul. You pull stuff out of your rear and label them facts. Even your own guys see you for what you are.

 

[Pi brat]

Wrong about a few things I'll admit, but dead on for the important ones. Where's DOH? Where's the snapback?

More than a few, but I have to give you credit for admitting you have been wrong, that's better than uhaul.

DOH-currently being litigated.
Snapback? What snapback? That term is very specific and wasn't argued. The freeze language was, but it's dead. Thing is, you said it was dead about a year ago.

 

[Crzipilot]

Ummm, a vote needs to happen dude. I know you only have a couple years on the property (like 9 -piece) but the TA addressed the issues like seniority negotations (which are really east/ west negotiations and not pilot/ company negotiations) and that is why they are referenced to the TA and not just listed as "closed" by the JNC.
USAPA's DOH monster is gasping for air... the last breath will probably be some time around April.

So let me get this straight. Your saying on that JNC update sheet, that the "T/A"'s listed next to each section is indicated it was addressed by the Transition Agreement relating to the merger. Strange I looked back at that term sheet and didn't see anything as closed, and those T/A's had multiple dates on them.


Think you need to get your terms straight....

 

[Crzipilot]

Let me guess, you never went to college?

Enjoy the "silver" spoon from PHX district court.

Where are you based, btw? CLT? I'm heading that way soon! Take care 😀

You got me there, just a simply hayseed from the sticks of Carolina.....LOA 93 is ok as cost of living isn't too much up in the mountains on long time family property. Yup, no real college, nor union work to speak of....

 

[cactusboy53]

More than a few, but I have to give you credit for admitting you have been wrong, that's better than uhaul.

DOH-currently being litigated.
Snapback? What snapback? That term is very specific and wasn't argued. The freeze language was, but it's dead. Thing is, you said it was dead about a year ago.

DOH is NOT being litigated. The company is seeking the court's direction regarding the use of the Nicolau. Further, the company's lawyer went on record on December 1st with the following: I think what we have here right now is a seniority list to which the company was obligated to accept it. The Union presented it. And that is the list that is required currently by the transition agreement.

You can scream "not fair" from the roof tops, but it DOES NOT change the fact that the Nicolau Award is the only legal list that the company must use. Changing the union name does not entitle you to cherry pick the sections of the contract and Transition Agreement that suits you.

USAPA has bought delay, and delay only. It has cost us all for the missteps and misdeeds. This ride is coming to an end sooner than you think, Pi. Just the facts.

 

[Move2CLT]

Closed, as in they are in effect? Wow when you bidding CLT? Didn't know that a party can't go back and revise something that has already been T/A'd. You guys grasping at straws or what?

Wow. Time to study boo boo.

 

[Crzipilot]

Wow? You take a random piece of ALPA, and use that as a claim that sections are closed, unable to be revisited by either party.

The west spin machine is in full cycle...HAHAHA

 

[Move2CLT]

You got me there, just a simply hayseed from the sticks of Carolina.....LOA 93 is ok as cost of living isn't too much up in the mountains on long time family property. Yup, no real college, nor union work to speak of....

Explains alot of your answers. With your lack of experience and education, didn't occur to you to ask more questions?

I mean, if I wanted to make shine I'd find me a bumpkin like yourself and ask how it was done. I'm sure you have some secrets you'd let me in on.

 

[Move2CLT]

Wow? You take a random piece of ALPA, and use that as a claim that sections are closed, unable to be revisited by either party.

The west spin machine is in full cycle...HAHAHA

Enos, talk to a rep before you continue posting.

Yer makin' a dag-gum fool of yerself.

 

[Crzipilot]

Enos, talk to a rep before you continue posting.

Yer makin' a dag-gum fool of yerself.

So what is the bumpkin missing here???? Oh wise educated one??

If you were so wise, you would know better than to even hint at asking a bumpkin any of his secrets to making shine, those are warring words right thar...

 

[Move2CLT]

Date of LOA 93 decision. CIRP committee pulled off the line. Multiple consecutive profitable quarters for AWA prior to the merger. I've laid it all our for you uhaul. You pull stuff out of your rear and label them facts. Even your own guys see you for what you are.

LOA93 was out long before TP announced it. CIRP was activated. We had $400m in the bank in 2005. And we had numerous profitable quarters.

Do I need to pull the earnings? Don't you trust me?

So it looks like I'm 100%.