US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Code Name V]

Well I'm a 757 captain and I should be making much more money, but thanks to you and yours I make $144 an hour.

Sorry to hear that. Let me give you some advice so that you can save a little money and make that lousy $144/hr go a little further...Go get your shoes resoled with rubber. That hydraulic fluid eats up the leather. You can tuck this advice away for future reference...

V

 

[nevergiveup]

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"We all will have known, that few... stood against many"

What a journey- God this has been great! AOL is truly a noble cause, a fight against an anti-union union. I will always be proud of my titanium and it will never leave my uniform- a symbol of our unity after the east tried to sucker punch us with their trailer park tactics.
And after the east collapses, if any of these angry fo's give me one problem when I call for a checklist I am grabbing them by the collar and hauling their unprofessional geriatric behinds into the CPO. The buck stops here.

This is why the two groups can never be put together. Need I say more?

 

[Code Name V]

"We all will have known, that few... stood against many"

What a journey- God this has been great! AOL is truly a noble cause, a fight against an anti-union union. I will always be proud of my titanium and it will never leave my uniform- a symbol of our unity after the east tried to sucker punch us with their trailer park tactics.
And after the east collapses, if any of these angry fo's give me one problem when I call for a checklist I am grabbing them by the collar and hauling their unprofessional geriatric behinds into the CPO. The buck stops here.

As I use the board for entertainment value only, this one really gives me reason to keep reading as it really cracks me up. Tell me; is your 'titanium' backer right next to your 'howdy doody' emblem? Maybe you could get it in the FOM so we can all wear one and put it next to our 'catfish' emblem.

I really have to laugh thinking of you or anyone else trying to grab anyone 'by the collar' and dragging us to the CPO. What a hoot!!! Truly, I would laugh my ass off watching you get pounded with that approach, tough guy.

However, it just goes to reemphasize the reason why these groups will never, ever be put together. The anger and animosity is so extreme that it goes well beyond even possible. All that needs be done is to is forward foolish remarks like yours to the FAA or the media and let them decide the safety issue.

Good luck with that approach. In the meantime, keep the remarks coming. I've got the popcorn popping and the butter warming....

V

 

[AWA320]

Silly little boy. This is laughable coming from a TransStates, let alone an America West pilot. I do grant you, you certainly are well versed on bottom of the barrel with your vast experience at worst of the industry. Welcome to the party! Try not to pee in the punch bowl..

I can see the FEAR in your words. Yes worked for Trans States double digit years ago and proud to have paid my dues. Hows does it feel to earn TODAY what I earned back then??? You and butterball both clueless I will have to come up with a name for you too.

AWA320

 

[nic4us]

You may want to rephrase your statement to: PSS: I 'currently' work the gear from the left seat....

V

Okay,

PSS. I currently work gear from the left seat, but just for you and any other f/o that upgrades, I will gladly work gear from the right seat, once you pass your checkride.

Is that better?

 

[Pi brat]

Is there anyone here that is really proud of what we have become? Look back at the posts over the last few weeks. Is there anything in there except excrement? I know I’m not proud of my words and am embarrassed that I was a part of this.

It’s time to tune out and think about what this time of year means. For me it’s time to accept that the road we have taken will keep us divided for a long time and no amount of back and forth will change any minds or actions. We will live with what each side has for a long time. I can’t change that so it’s time to focus on the family.

For those I have sparred with, I mean you no harm. Just as I do with my brothers and sisters I have shared an airplane with, I wish you and your families a safe and Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a better New Year.

 

[luvthe9]

Is there anyone here that is really proud of what we have become? Look back at the posts over the last few weeks. Is there anything in there except excrement? I know I’m not proud of my words and am embarrassed that I was a part of this.

It’s time to tune out and think about what this time of year means. For me it’s time to accept that the road we have taken will keep us divided for a long time and no amount of back and forth will change any minds or actions. We will live with what each side has for a long time. I can’t change that so it’s time to focus on the family.

For those I have sparred with, I mean you no harm. Just as I do with my brothers and sisters I have shared an airplane with, I wish you and your families a safe and Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a better New Year.

Pi , you are right on if we were all under the boards old rules I think all us would be in the cornfield for a long time, I think we should all get off the board at least from the 23rd to to the 26th, I'm sure we could all use a break, lord knows it will still be here.!!!!

 

[exB717Flyer]

Is there anyone here that is really proud of what we have become?

Yes. I am proud of all pilots who have the integrity to honor binding arbitration. And I am ashamed there are so many pilots who think disagreeing with an arbitrator justifies using unethical and immoral means to get around him.

You shall not be getting any holiday wishes from me. Nothing personal, of course.

 

[nic4us]

However, it just goes to reemphasize the reason why these groups will never, ever be put together. The anger and animosity is so extreme that it goes well beyond even possible. All that needs be done is to is forward foolish remarks like yours to the FAA or the media and let them decide the safety issue.

V

I have always thought that with the exception of very few legitimate grievences, whistleblowers who run to the FAA or the media are nothing more than cowards that are unable to resolve an issue inhouse.

Typically, they make a huge fool of themselves. Publically displaying their lack of knowledge and/or inadvertantly revealing their own lacking understanding of the situation of which they complain.

In regards to any future mixing of crews, I would imagine there to be an isolated flare up every now and again, but the thought of anyone draging a fellow crewmember "by the collar" to the CPO, or running to the FAA with anonymous web post, I just do not see it.

 

[exB717Flyer]

Pi , you are right on if we were all under the boards old rules I think all us would be in the cornfield for a long time,

Not me. Somehow I've managed to control my emotions enough to not get punished on any message boards. I think if more Easties were in better control of their emotions we'd all be better off. You know, like having a new contract since 2007 and stuff like that.

 

[cleardirect]

I posted a few days ago a couple quotes from the west response to Seham false Rule 11 motion. The west is asking the court for sanctions against Seham. Yet no response. We finally have something solid to talk about in the court case and nothing. It will be interesting to see what judge Silver does with that. This is the 4th time Seham has asked for sanctions. The judge will not find that to be normal lawyering.

If the judge awards damages to the west what will the screams from the east be this time?

 

[luvthe9]

If the judge awards damages to the west what will the screams from the east be this time?

And if he does not what will the screams be from the west this time?

 

[AWA320]

I posted a few days ago a couple quotes from the west response to Seham false Rule 11 motion. The west is asking the court for sanctions against Seham. Yet no response. We finally have something solid to talk about in the court case and nothing. It will be interesting to see what judge Silver does with that. This is the 4th time Seham has asked for sanctions. The judge will not find that to be normal lawyering.

If the judge awards damages to the west what will the screams from the east be this time?

Ok glad you posted this. Last night I do a flight to DTW and I have none other than senior VP Doug Kerr on board. As is the case with all senior management they come up front to talk for a while prior to push. So I ask Kerr how he likes dealing with usapa and he rolls his eyes. Now I thought this to be kinda funny seeing as how they are able to roll usapa like bugle boy cigatettes. I say to him "you have got to know that the court cant offer you indemnity against us if we sue". I was absolutly floored by his response. He stated "Yes we know that and we have no intention of using anything other than the NIC UNLESS the court tells us we have to". I ask if him if attorney Jackson was still company house council to which he responded yes. I said what did he say about this? Well without going too far "we have NO INTENTION OF USING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE NIC UNLESS THE COURT TELL US WE HAVE TO"!! I said ok Doug I hear you loud and clear on that and that's my thought as well.

AWA320

 

[cleardirect]

And if he does not what will the screams be from the west this time?

No screams. You see the west can handle it when the people that we agree to decide make a decision.

But I think the likely situation is the judge says boys play nice. Don't make be get the stick. But Seham has made his reputation in the court house.

I think the biggest tatical error Seham made was fighting the transfer back to Wake. He gave Seham a lot of latitude. Silver I doubt is going to be that way. Seham already accused Wake of being biased and got him nowhere.

 

[Boeing Driver]

And after the east collapses, if any of these angry fo's give me one problem when I call for a checklist I am grabbing them by the collar and hauling their unprofessional geriatric behinds into the CPO. The buck stops here.

I would absolutely PAY money to have you try that with a man that has scarified 23+ years to this place. Absolutely priceless!

If you low-lifes think your going to waltz in here and steal jobs from people that have been scarifying all of these years for those jobs you are delusional. What makes you think you have the right to take a job that was previously held by a US Airways pilot?

Bring it on low-life; you will find us to be more than up to dealing with your futile "Me the Captain - Hear Me Roar" syndrome.

This is going to a whole lot of fun!


Boeing Driver