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Trader is seniority #1759 out of roughly 3400. The pilots that are junior to him are Captains (A320, 737, E190) and Widebody F/Os (767 and A330). What is so hard to comprehend about that?
 
I'm on the 75 hour option so everyone but a 190 F/O makes more than I do.

I choose not to be on Reserve Captain 19 days a month and so do many F/Os.
 
Now you know why Franke hired the outcast, the marginal, the subpar and managed their expectations masterfully. He used them masterfully, now even the giant legacy AMR has been brought to earth by the legions of Franke.
That's quite a feat for 1600 losers.
 
You are going to have to explain this statement. The only people making more would be on the 767 or 330. Are you admitting that 1999 hires are junior to AWA pilots. That would be the Nicolau. Reality finally sinking in.

There are only 435 WB F/O's. Are you saying the some WB captains are junior to west captains?

Make your case dude.
That's where it really hurts. The widebody F/O's that make a fraction of the going widebody rate certainly limits the topic of conversation with other crews on those glamorous international overnights. But I bet they get more than their fair share of pity beers.
 
Trader is seniority #1759 out of roughly 3400. The pilots that are junior to him are Captains (A320, 737, E190) and Widebody F/Os (767 and A330). What is so hard to comprehend about that?
You telling us that pilots will bid for QOL and not jump at the highest paying position or upgrade at the first opportunity????? I am shocked.

That is not what you guys have been screaming for years now is it? You guys are saying that west guys will come flooding east for all of those "good" jobs. Choosing to commute just for the money.

Theory kind of falling apart.
 
It's fascinating that Barrister, who has said that there's no need for insults, can't seem to make a post without insults... :lol:

I suspect some frustration that the dream of DOH and industry standard contract seems to have turned into a nightmare is to blame.

Jim
 
That's where it really hurts. The widebody F/O's that make a fraction of the going widebody rate certainly limits the topic of conversation with other crews on those glamorous international overnights. But I bet they get more than their fair share of pity beers.

Oddly....as a 757 first officer......East pilots are not the lowest paid.......that would be those West boys and girls flying to Hawaii.
 
You telling us that pilots will bid for QOL and not jump at the highest paying position or upgrade at the first opportunity????? I am shocked.

That is not what you guys have been screaming for years now is it? You guys are saying that west guys will come flooding east for all of those "good" jobs. Choosing to commute just for the money.

Theory kind of falling apart.


Unfortunately....just like the PSA guys, the West pilots wont have a choice as the Phoenix base shrinks. They will move East.
 
It's fascinating that Barrister, who has said that there's no need for insults, can't seem to make a post without insults... :lol:

I suspect some frustration that the dream of DOH and industry standard contract seems to have turned into a nightmare is to blame.

Jim

Wrong again old timer. I said I don't blame any westie for this mess. Only NIC. Still feel that way.
But I do hold them responsible for idiotic comments

NICDOA
NPJB
 
Oddly....as a 757 first officer......East pilots are not the lowest paid.......that would be those West boys and girls flying to Hawaii.
Oddly, the same west fo flying the same amount of days has a total compensation of 20% more, I know that's chomp change for you clowns. OH yeah and about 10 more days vacation, again I understand that is not important to you braniacs as you count reserve days as "off" days if u don't get used.
 
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