US Pilots Labor Discussion

[OTTER574]

How did Steve Bradford get my address?

Call al hemenway vp labor, ed bular senior vp and lyle hogg vp flt ops to find out.

All are ex us air pro east/enablers of a corrupt usapa cronyism at it's best.

OTTER

 

[Move2CLT]

Plz pay attention. The question is how does the NIC get used without being having been implemented per the transition agreement?

Pay attention.

The Nic is being used. It's S22.

It exists. It represents the combined pilot group and will be used in the next merger.

One more time, there is NO west entity.

 

[traderjake]

Call al hemenway vp labor, ed bular senior vp and lyle hogg vp flt ops to find out.

My guess is that the PHL ALPA Reps stole the ALPA list.

Could be wrong.

 

[OTTER574]

My guess is that the PHL ALPA Reps stole the ALPA list.

Could be wrong.

The current pro east flt ops mentioned above and the current and enabled corrupt usapa need and feed off each other.

Without either one the other goes away.

OTTER

 

[cleardirect]

Plz pay attention. The question is how does the NIC get used without being having been implemented per the transition agreement?

When the court tells management it has an obligation to use the Nicolau they are not going to accept a combined seniority list not in the Nicolau order.

Changing the name of the company does not change the obligation.

 

[OTTER574]

Plz pay attention. The question is how does the NIC get used without being having been implemented per the transition agreement?

Pay attention please...joint contract with lcc implements the NIC per the TA. If in doubt please call bob siegel or review the public Federal Court docs. He is the attorney for lcc. He spoke in front of Federal Judge Silver 12/01/11 stating such as counsel for lcc/dj lawsuit against usapa/west class....😉

Plus, there are many other Federal Court documents that state the same thing in regards to this for your viewing pleasure or pain...take your pick in regards to the pain.

OTTER

http://www.omm.com/bobsiegel/

 

[cleardirect]

I am disappointed that you seem to be an advocate of relativism in order to justify the unauthorized possession of personal info and addresses.

Unauthorized possession of personal information. That is a very long way from identity theft isn't it? After how many months did you and usapa scream ID theft? How much money did usapa spend on depositions persuing false accusation? How many embarrassing letters did usapa send to law enforcement and states attorney general crying about ID theft?

Now you say it is just unauthorized possession. Weak boys very weak! Is it now a crime to have someones address?

 

[USA320Pilot]

It would be a two-way: Nic and APA.

You're right about the seniority list, but that was not my point. My point is that three contracts would be combined into one contract.

 

[nevergiveup]

When the court tells management it has an obligation to use the Nicolau they are not going to accept a combined seniority list not in the Nicolau order.

Changing the name of the company does not change the obligation.

I don't think you answered the question..

 

[BoeingBoy]

The answer is simple. Don't confuse not implemented with not existing. Prior to 1/1/2010, how many easties were convinced that pay restoration to LOA 84 levels and the return of the 3% annual raises existed but hadn't been implemented. Why would you or any other eastie argue the opposite for a single list. The integrated list does actually exist, in compliance with the transition agreement, but hasn't been implemented yet, also in compliance with the transition agreement.

If Parker doesn't know anything else, he knows that if USAPA and the company modify the transitiion agreement to allow use of another integrated US list a hybrid DFR will be filed within a week or two. Do you really think he'd put up with a couple of years delay and miss out on a possible acquisition of AA? Nope, he's just waiting for a court to give him cover for insisting that the Nic be used.

Jim

 

[Move2CLT]

I don't think you answered the question..

You easties think that just because the Nic isn't being used, that it doesn't exist.

It does exist. And it's alive and well. Parker accepted the list as it met all of the company's requirements. It doesn't need a CBA to be used. A merger will bring it front and center pretty fast.

There is no way around it.

 

[crazystnic]

The CLT Chief Pilot's Office staffing changed immediately after the Preliminary Injunction against USAPA became Permanent. Is this coincidental or planned? In my opinion, those CLT pilots who have violated company policy, violate the Ethics Manual, do not wear the correct lanyard, or continue to operate aircraft in less than an efficient manner may now have increased risk of discipline and/or termination.

Furthermore, the Pilot Records Improvement Act requires an airline pilot's employment record for the past 5 years to be sent to any new employer. If a pilot is disciplined or terminated at US Airways or any other carrier his or her employment record and discipline information must be sent by US Airways to the prospective new employer during the background check.

I believe every employee needs to support US Airways to become the best airline in the world. It serves no useful purpose to damage the company, pilots need to operate their aircraft efficiently, and pilots must provide the company's customers the best travel experience possible. Strong operations, reduced costs, and improved revenue provides US Airways with more money to pay employees, when the union eventually gets to that point in new contract discussions.

Please lay off the FUD.... it's not becoming... we are all grown boys and girls and can take care of ourselves.

Also when DP stops spitting in my face I'll consider becoming a company guy.

It just amazes me that you guys don't get more pissed off at his constant dribble... of how they are trying to get a contract and the company is showing up... BFD.

 

[traderjake]

Please lay off the FUD.... it's not becoming... we are all grown boys and girls and can take care of ourselves.
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It just amazes me that you guys don't get more pissed off at his constant dribble...

Insert the names of the USAPA CLT Reps and I'll agree with you.

 

[Phoenix]

Insert the names of the USAPA CLT Reps and I'll agree with you.

Are you a former CLT ALPA rep?

 

[traderjake]

No.

My ALPA participation consists of attending 3 council meetings. One in MIA, one BWI, and one CLT.