US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Pi brat]

I noted the names, date, and time of conversation in the article including the former President of USAPA and the current President of SWAPA in the blog piece. Why not call one or both of them with your concerns? Why is the name of the publisher relevant..you either believe the named author or not?

Anyone paying attention (and you obviously are) knows exactly who publishes Reform USAPA, change USAPA, CC, and Unbiased facts. Yousapa I think is kaput, at least it is not being updated.

This politics stuff is not rocket science...if you read all you can the players are indeed obvious. Your "scorecard" should be what you believe to be true after reading everything, and how you vote.

Funny how more comments are made about the "finger pointing" on this forum than about what is being "pointed to." I guess you will be signing your next post here with your name and crew base? After all, it is election season and even Company policy about "identifying yourself as an employee" is put aside.

RR

When it comes to your future you like to know who is saying what. I can agree with people that I have disagreed with before, I've even done it with old Jim on here. But, there are a lot of people that made a lot of claims when USAPA was started and it's good to see the names with the claims. To turn it around, why wouldn't they say who they are? Some groups do, I think compass correction does. I just think it is interesting how the factions have developed. Cleary and Seham fighting.......who would have thunk it?

No, I won't be identifying myself on this board. I think a lot know who I am and I don't really care, but there are reasons for not posting names here. I don't see yours.

 

[Pi brat]

Ah, but Harry hasn't seen the PM's you sent. All those #@%& and #%@&'s were pleas, right?

Jim

Why do you just keep stating the same thing over and over again? No pleas. Got it, no pleas. Other than being a pain in the ass, you are of no consequence to our pilot group anymore, so why would I plea to you? I made an offer to right a wrong if one had taken place. I was right the first time and you deserved every $#$# and ##$#$ and I meant them.

No, he didn't see them. He missed your "did you upskirt anyone today" bit too.

See ya.

 

[Pi brat]

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Happy Friday to all!!! Oh well, it's Friday for me anyway... Here's to y'all! (That's a colloquialism, by the way, for the grammar police, (NLG) just in case I have to Move to CLT, I'm practicing) I have to ask. Does anybody claim this guy? Is he at all indicative of East sentiment or mentality? WTF? Does everyone just block him or is there some intended audience that he is designated for? Holy Guacamole! Maybe he's an alter ego for Cleary. Cleary/Claxon, can't be a coincidence. Ok, just for the record, AA may use date of hire, I haven't looked, but US pilots will slotted by the Nic. Period. (Or I'll get richer)

PUI again fifi? Don't spend all those riches on liquor.

 

[Reed Richards]

Ahhh, another hair-brained theory for getting out from under the Nic.

And you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids and that dog.

Dogs. Kids. Nic. But no reply on how you are actually voting.

Take some time and get your story straight. Confer with Eric as to your "duties" in voting. You can catch up with me sometime in mid Feb. when the Primary is over.

By the way, I may soon be changing my opinion (unsure and anything is possible) about the proceedings in Judge Silver's court. I am sure you will be on pins and needles (that is a very senior term) waiting for my revelation. Have Marty's clerks done their homework? Hopefully they know at least who the current Officers of the Union are!

RR

 

[Pi brat]

And you would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids and that dog.

Rut ro raggy! That was pretty good uhaul.

 

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[fifidriver]

PUI again fifi? Don't spend all those riches on liquor.

Hi Pi!
Only on Friday. Please don't tell me Claxon is another screen name. What's up with that? Hey, remember you asked me about that SFO commuter that rode in guy's jumpseats and then reported them for not following SOPs? First name Doug. (Person of size). I think that's enough for now. If you're still not sure, I'll fill you in when I buy you a drink. Later...

 

[BoeingBoy]

your "did you upskirt anyone today" bit too.

As you've gotten fond of saying, PROOF. Quote the post where I said those words to you.

@$&# and &(@% sure don't sound like a cordial invite to me...

Jim

 

[Reed Richards]

When it comes to your future you like to know who is saying what. I can agree with people that I have disagreed with before, I've even done it with old Jim on here. But, there are a lot of people that made a lot of claims when USAPA was started and it's good to see the names with the claims. To turn it around, why wouldn't they say who they are? Some groups do, I think compass correction does. I just think it is interesting how the factions have developed. Cleary and Seham fighting.......who would have thunk it?

No, I won't be identifying myself on this board. I think a lot know who I am and I don't really care, but there are reasons for not posting names here. I don't see yours.

So you agree the CC says who they are, and we all know the who owns Unbiased facts, and the article on Change USAPA was "signed." I just don't get your original premises, that you don't know who "speaking."

When 8M dollars of dues moneys are spent there has to be "politics." Just like when Trillions are spent by our government. What do you mean "factions?" That would simply be those who want the moneys spent one way, and others who disagree. I already saw what happens when a union has a "get along, go along" mentality..it was called ALPA, and I lost my retirement to a vote by individuals who dared not "be a faction."

All I ask is the current leadership abide by the CBL of the union and respect the votes of the BPR and the members. They simply have not. I will be a "faction" until they do, or until I can hopefully replace them.

Seems all normal to me, politics being what it is.

Good night PI, and remember to vote early and often!

RR

 

[Pi brat]

Hi Pi!
Only on Friday. Please don't tell me Claxon is another screen name. What's up with that? Hey, remember you asked me about that SFO commuter that rode in guy's jumpseats and then reported them for not following SOPs? First name Doug. (Person of size). I think that's enough for now. If you're still not sure, I'll fill you in when I buy you a drink. Later...

Had him the other day. Very interested in my operation.........so may not be an east/west thing, but not sure.

Not throwing stones on the PUI, if you know what I mean.

 

[fifidriver]

PUI again fifi? Don't spend all those riches on liquor.

Come on over... Seriously, some day I hope to buy you one.

 

[Move2CLT]

Dogs. Kids. Nic. But no reply on how you are actually voting.

Take some time and get your story straight. Confer with Eric as to your "duties" in voting. You can catch up with me sometime in mid Feb. when the Primary is over.

By the way, I may soon be changing my opinion (unsure and anything is possible) about the proceedings in Judge Silver's court. I am sure you will be on pins and needles (that is a very senior term) waiting for my revelation. Have Marty's clerks done their homework? Hopefully they know at least who the current Officers of the Union are!

RR

No idea of how I'm voting? You're kidding, right?

I thought that my avatar, at the very least, would give it away.

 

[Pi brat]

So you agree the CC says who they are, and we all know the who owns Unbiased facts, and the article on Change USAPA was "signed." I just don't get your original premises, that you don't know who "speaking."

When 8M dollars of dues moneys are spent there has to be "politics." Just like when Trillions are spent by our government. What do you mean "factions?" That would simply be those who want the moneys spent one way, and others who disagree. I already saw what happens when a union has a "get along, go along" mentality..it was called ALPA, and I lost my retirement to a vote by individuals who dared not "be a faction."

All I ask is the current leadership abide by the CBL of the union and respect the votes of the BPR and the members. They simply have not. I will be a "faction" until they do, or until I can hopefully replace them.

Seems all normal to me, politics being what it is.

Good night PI, and remember to vote early and often!

RR

No I don't know who owns unbiased facts. Thought I did, but was told I was wrong. We just seem to be duplicating a lot and I sometimes wonder who is doing what, that's it, no great conspiracy.

When you have more than 2 people involved, there is politics. By factions I mean those that join together around a common theme.

Looking forward to your ideas on Silver.

 

[Pi brat]

As you've gotten fond of saying, PROOF. Quote the post where I said those words to you.

@$&# and &(@% sure don't sound like a cordial invite to me...

Jim

Let me get this straight. You are denying that you said that, or something very near to that to me?

I believe the posts were removed due to violations, I can thumb through a few. Did you get sent to the cornfield for that little episode?

 

[fifidriver]

Had him the other day. Very interested in my operation.........

Not throwing stones on the PUI, if you know what I mean.

"Power to the PUI"... Seriously, not to belabor a point, but can you really blame the westies that refuse to allow east jumpseaters in the flight deck? This kind of crap should result in being knee-capped. (by your own kind) We have a surprisingly large percentage of commuters that prefer not to live in phx, but need to get to work. I assume that it works the same way in clt. That behavior just seems beyond the pale.