US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Pi brat]

Here is an interesting email sent to a large group of East pilots this evening:

From: USAPA USAPA <defendusapa@gmail.com>
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: TRAITORS!!


YOU IDIOTS BETTER NOT XXXX THIS UP. IF FERGESON GETS IN, IT'LL BE ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

WE KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE ON THIS LIST AND YOU'LL BE GETTING PHONE CALLS IF THE WEST COMES OUT OF THIS THE WINNER.

I didn't get that. You don't think they will go to my wife, do you?!

 

[Pi brat]

Pi brat Posted Today, 07:52 PM
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Group: Registered Member Posts: 4,718 Joined: 25-January 07 traderjake, on 21 February 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Barton Brands.......A union may not juggle the seniority list for the sole purpose of advancing one group at the expense of another


Hey trader. Is the above post from USA what you meant about his courage?
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That was your post, you tell me what the h*** you're trying to say.

You said USA320 has "courage". I showed you his posts from 2007 that are 180 degrees from his post now. He rips into every one on the east now, but was a USAPA cheerleader then. Is that "courage"?

 

[fodase]

Here is an interesting email sent to a large group of East pilots this evening:

From: USAPA USAPA <defendusapa@gmail.com>
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: TRAITORS!!


YOU IDIOTS BETTER NOT XXXX THIS UP. IF FERGESON GETS IN, IT'LL BE ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

WE KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE ON THIS LIST AND YOU'LL BE GETTING PHONE CALLS IF THE WEST COMES OUT OF THIS THE WINNER.

Sounds like there's some worried clowns back east. I think if I was a moderate and received this email I would Immediately go vote for the west

 

[traderjake]

YOU IDIOTS BETTER NOT XXXX THIS UP. IF FERGESON GETS IN, IT'LL BE ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

WE KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE ON THIS LIST AND YOU'LL BE GETTING PHONE CALLS IF THE WEST COMES OUT OF THIS THE WINNER.

USAPA hardliners trying to coerce people, that's a shock.

 

[Pi brat]

Sounds like there's some worried clowns back east. I think if I was a moderate and received this email I would Immediately go vote for the west

Uh, no. Good try. I'd go vote for Hummel. This is the Cleary/Mowrey/McKee camp in action. If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em into submission.

 

[traderjake]

You said USA320 has "courage". I showed you his posts from 2007 that are 180 degrees from his post now. He rips into every one on the east now, but was a USAPA cheerleader then. Is that "courage"?

That's being smart enough to realize he made a mistake.

 

[Move2CLT]

Here is an interesting email sent to a large group of East pilots this evening:

From: USAPA USAPA <defendusapa@gmail.com>
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: TRAITORS!!


YOU IDIOTS BETTER NOT XXXX THIS UP. IF FERGESON GETS IN, IT'LL BE ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

WE KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE ON THIS LIST AND YOU'LL BE GETTING PHONE CALLS IF THE WEST COMES OUT OF THIS THE WINNER.

Wow, now it's getting a bit tight out east.

Interesting.

 

[Phoenix]

Here is an interesting email sent to a large group of East pilots this evening:

From: USAPA USAPA <defendusapa@gmail.com>
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: TRAITORS!!


YOU IDIOTS BETTER NOT XXXX THIS UP. IF FERGESON GETS IN, IT'LL BE ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

WE KNOW EACH AND EVERYONE ON THIS LIST AND YOU'LL BE GETTING PHONE CALLS IF THE WEST COMES OUT OF THIS THE WINNER.

Kinda short on info there.. I didn't get it.

The subject line seems to indicates it is a reply... were is the rest?

 

[fatherabraham]

Hmm, what percentage of your attrition does the west get?

Whatever your DOH might warrant after a Cba. Fairly easy concept don't ya think!
My guess is your an AFO......." so, no soup for YOU "
Plz oh plz tell me again about how that loa93 leverage ( you think you hold over my head ) is working for you.

FA

 

[Move2CLT]

Problem you have pi is you believe these westies can be your friends....
They are trying to kick us in the groin and steal our attrition. If you were an fo you would have a deeper passion for the cause.

Did you send that nastygram to Reed?

Sounds like you've turned on your fellow eastie.

 

[Pi brat]

That's being smart enough to realize he made a mistake.

You have got to be kidding me! I really don't like you, but I gave you more credit than this. That idiot swings whichever way the wind blows.

 

[Move2CLT]

Do you support that type of pressure on someone that disagrees with the party line?

Obviously. Man, I've never seen a group turn on each other as ferociously as you easties turn on one another.

Pink panties, verbal threats to destroy families, ugly emails, etc. and you think we cause the division?

 

[Pi brat]

That means you can't hold a captain spot today if everyone bid what they can hold. It does explain your support for hummel.

Well, that is the big unknown and the fear factor that is driving everyone, isn't it? The stovepipe list that one of your boys developed shows me as being able to hold A330 F/O, which is what I would like to do, but damn it, those guys that are under 1000 or so on the list keep bidding it and keeping me out. I'm closer to a regular block holding A320 Capt than I am a regular A330 F/O blockholder. You guys can't understand that, can you?

The reason I say that I have to be ready to be a F/O under the Nic is because of the large number of west F/Os that are senior to me on the Nic, that are not, and never have been, a captain. What they will be bid is unknown, seeing that they say they will never go east and they don't want to fly trans Atlantic and other assorted bullshit.

 

[traderjake]

I really don't like you, but I gave you more credit than this.

Come on, admit it, you really do like me.

You like Jim too.

 

[Res Judicata]

Problem you have pi is you believe these westies can be your friends....
They are trying to kick us in the groin and steal our attrition. If you were an fo you would have a deeper passion for the cause.

You mean an Angry FO? Out of Curiosity, what is "the cause"? Violating LMRDA in every conceivable way?