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I believe that nic4us said you were a west F/O that lost his captain bid after the merger. Is that true, if you care to respond. If you don't want to answer that is fine.


Wasn't that the same story for E.F.?
 
Had to share this fantastic post:

can we enjoy the black eye we just gave the people that want to screw us! The sun will rise again tomorrow. I am personally laughing my ass off. Consider where we started the day I became the rep. Today we bagged the judicial branch of USAPA. Parrella has been disavowed, the Clerians have been told to go home and shut the f%^#k up. It has been a very bad year for the estates so far.
 
The way I hear it, since all the East candidates were DOH advocates they actually received a 2:1 affirmation over their opposition. If all the West pilots voted as block and the numbers indicate they might have peeled a few East votes away from the East candidates, what is all the crowing about? If you received a handful of votes more than your voting block, is winning over USA320 and the other 3 or 4 people who listen to him to your cause really a victory?
 
You do realize we control the Appeal Board, right?


How are they elected? It appears the East and West groups still vote for themselves so if the appeal board was used to disruptive, wouldn't a recall happen and wouldn't the results of the recall be a forgone conclusion? Do you not think using it to be antagonistic for just the sake if it would only deepen the feelings of hostility between your groups and ensure an energetic recall?
 
Here are some of my thoughts post election:

1. About 40% of the pilots did not vote either due to apathy (above age 60 pilots) or non-members. That's a huge percentage of disinterested pilots.

2. If the ReformUSAPA de facto ticket had obtained about 1,500 votes for each candidate I believe they could win a "run-off" election, but the McKee, Dopp, and Borman votes will likely go to Hummel, Bradford, and Smyser.

3. If McKee had been elected I believe Cleary and Mowrey could have been appointed to the Merger Committee or NAC, but that appears unlikely now.

4. The election is going just like I predicted, which means "we're guaranteed no contract for a few years and litigation that likely will be appealed to the USSC," with two exceptions.

A.) I do believe Hummel will be honest. If Doug Parker provides the Officers with a contract offer of Delta + 1%, acceptance of the Nicolau Award to become part of Section 22, and the CoC clause is eliminated I believe Hummel and the BPR will let the pilots know and decide. How will they do that? By putting the company's offer out to vote without a recommendation, or

B.) The 3rd listers begin to replace the apathetic pilots and eventually join forces with the PHX-based and East coast-based anti USAPA pilots to gain control of the union, eliminate the C&BL DOH provision, and negotiate a contract that contains the Nicolau Award.

why do you continue with your predictions... Are you in the tarot card reading business?
the nic will not be the list if ever for a very long time.
 
Had to share this fantastic post:

can we enjoy the black eye we just gave the people that want to screw us! The sun will rise again tomorrow. I am personally laughing my ass off. Consider where we started the day I became the rep. Today we bagged the judicial branch of USAPA. Parrella has been disavowed, the Clerians have been told to go home and shut the f%^#k up. It has been a very bad year for the estates so far.

OOps. More like fantastic blunder perhaps.

So one of the PHX reps wrote this? If it was not EF or JK, then they better disavow any connection pronto. If it WAS one of them, so much for their empty claim of unifying the pilot group.

Has the curtain been pulled back?
 
OOps. More like fantastic blunder perhaps.

So one of the PHX reps wrote this? If it was not EF or JK, then they better disavow any connection pronto. If it WAS one of them, so much for their empty claim of unifying the pilot group.

Has the curtain been pulled back?
KV, you're getting dumber by the post.
 
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