US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Harry Callahan]

Sure does Harry. You guys are Sherlocks.

Great work.

Now back to your belt loader.

Don't do beltloaders take another stab, but anyway not much longer for me. How about you?

 

[Move2CLT]

I've got a while.

 

[fatherabraham]

Give it a rest breeze or I'll have a mod do it for you.

Wow Boo Boo,
Could it really be? And I thought you the unshakeable silver tounge devil! Have seen his vid......plz prove these guys wrong or I'll have to re-evaluate our budding dynamic friendship .

FA

 

[luvn737s]

Getting very aquainted with the moderators, eh?

Probably a surprise to you, but I have friends out West.....old friends. Townsend and Willoughby retired a few years back, but I still have old buddies lurking around.

I know who you are and believe that all on this board should know. We don't need a "West" Cleary in charge, regardless of who wins.

breeze

Aren't you too busy getting west employees fired (or so you say?). How many of your "old buddies" would admit to such acquaintance without a chuckle? Perhaps they know of you, more so than know you.

 

[nic4us]

Pathetic BS.. Whats the matter? Getting a little nervous the Frankenstein monster you created is coming home to visit? Get ready for years more frustration with Hummel. His latest missive says "he sees nothing in the T.A. That would require the company to use the nic award"

He's lying. Bald faced, flat out lying. The COMPANY says they have to use the Nic and they're allegedly neutral on the matter. Hummel will be as big a failure as Cleary...just not as entertaining.

Nothing new here. Hummel is simply voicing what we all already know. The company is not required to use the Nic outside of a joint contract, and Hummel and usapa intend to force seperate ops indefinitely.

Problem for usapa is the company no longer seems willing to (whether intentionally or just by mutual benefit) abet usapa in that obvious DFR.

 

[mrbreeze]

Aren't you too busy getting west employees fired (or so you say?).

I don't know what you are talking about.....please explain. I don't believe I have ever made any kind of statement like that. You will have to show me that one.

breeze

 

[nic4us]

Wow Boo Boo,
Could it really be? And I thought you the unshakeable silver tounge devil! Have seen his vid......plz prove these guys wrong or I'll have to re-evaluate our budding dynamic friendship .

FA

I hear Claxon is Hummel.

I hear Luv9 is Hogg.

I hear Theur is still a scab!

plz prove me wrong so I can re-evaluate the pending hybrid-DFR against the scab union and the colluding company.

 

[nic4us]

Hey Breeze,

If I recall correctly the AWHC share holders ended up getting something to the tune of 38% of LCC.

They were going to get like 45%, but as the merger approached, more outside investors threw money into the pot, which diluted their share.

Two points to make.

1. The AWHC shareholders were by far the largest single investor in LCC.

2. Lakefield and Seabury were NOT the only driving force to make the aquisition happen.


Sorry, 700UW, the pittsburg gazzette is only giving about 1/3rd of the entire story, for their pittsburg audience.

 

[Beancounter]

I hear Claxon is Hummel.

I hear Luv9 is Hogg.

I hear Theur is still a scab!

plz prove me wrong so I can re-evaluate the pending hybrid-DFR against the scab union and the colluding company.

I thought Claxon was Cleary?

If he's Hummel, we're really screwed.

 

[luvn737s]

I know who you are and believe that all on this board should know. We don't need a "West" Cleary in charge, regardless of who wins.

breeze

How many people know who you are from the picture of the FDML you posted ( and which some may have archived or forwarded)?

 

[mrbreeze]

How many people know who you are from the picture of the FDML you posted ( and which some may have archived or forwarded)?

I am not concerned about that in the least....so, what is your point about me trying to get people in the West fired. If I have ever stated that, or something that came across like that, I apologize to the folks on this board.

Show me your evidence.....mainly because I don't think I ever made that kind of statement.

breeze

 

[mrbreeze]

Hey Breeze,

If I recall correctly the AWHC share holders ended up getting something to the tune of 38% of LCC.

They were going to get like 45%, but as the merger approached, more outside investors threw money into the pot, which diluted their share.

Two points to make.

1. The AWHC shareholders were by far the largest single investor in LCC.

2. Lakefield and Seabury were NOT the only driving force to make the aquisition happen.


Sorry, 700UW, the pittsburg gazzette is only giving about 1/3rd of the entire story, for their pittsburg audience.

Nic,
All due respect, but that is one of those "if I recall correctly" statements. I have those too, and sometimes question my "recalls" 🙂

I have never heard of AWHC having a major stake in the merger.....could be worng, but that is the info we were given in the East. With Parker's statements about where USAir was at the time, and where AWA was headed, and how we saved each other, that is what we have to go on.

breeze

 

[mrbreeze]

How many people know who you are from the picture of the FDML you posted ( and which some may have archived or forwarded)?

Also, that sounds like a threat....

That pic was in support of the problems we were having with the Trans Atlantic flying at the time and had nothing to do with threatening to get someone fired.

Bring it on!

breeze

 

[CallawayGolf]

Nic,
All due respect, but that is one of those "if I recall correctly" statements. I have those too, and sometimes question my "recalls" 🙂

I have never heard of AWHC having a major stake in the merger.....could be worng, but that is the info we were given in the East. With Parker's statements about where USAir was at the time, and where AWA was headed, and how we saved each other, that is what we have to go on.

breeze

From the press release at the time of the merger:

Equity Allocation:
The $350 million of private equity commitments are based upon a total
implied private full equity value of $850 million for the merged corporation.
Of that $850 million valuation, 45 percent will be allocated to America West,
41 percent to the new equity and 14 percent to US Airways. This valuation
results in an implied value of $6.12 per share for the publicly traded America
West stock, taking into effect dilution from outstanding warrants and options
and the anticipated treatment of convertible securities. The partners have
agreed that up to $650 million of total equity can be raised including any
proceeds from planned a rights offering.

 

[luvn737s]

Also, that sounds like a threat....

No, that's not my style. Just a word to the wise that the whole "outing" thing is a road no one needs to go down.