US Pilots Labor Discussion

[No Land Green]

Dude, why is it $leez $he $ham is the only one regurgitating this obvious B.S.? If it's so easy, why are some of you still on food stamps 3 years after the saviour YOUsappy showed up? Food stamps. Dude, that really sucks. Dude, am I the only one that has noticed that an improved contract is not even on the radar screen? The only thing that sucks worse than that dude, is the complete inability to realize you've been sold a huge pile of Horse S*** . Bro, Back in 2004, when I was a new hire at Mesa, I was told I'd upgrade in 10 months...DUDE, it took me 13 months!!!.

Sometimes you get bad info dude/bro/man/playa.

Successful people can identify exactly when those times are.

The Unsuccessful....Can't.

I've been debt free since 1997 "dude/bro/man/playa"

I am "Successful" "dude/bro/man/playa"

No food stamps here or ever.

 

[Black Swan]

Dude, why is it $leez $he $ham is the only one regurgitating this obvious B.S.? If it's so easy, why are some of you still on food stamps 3 years after the saviour YOUsappy showed up? Food stamps. Dude, that really sucks. Dude, am I the only one that has noticed that an improved contract is not even on the radar screen? The only thing that sucks worse than that dude, is the complete inability to realize you've been sold a huge pile of Horse S*** . Bro, Back in 2004, when I was a new hire at Mesa, I was told I'd upgrade in 10 months...DUDE, it took me 13 months!!!.

Sometimes you get bad info dude/bro/man/playa.

Successful people can identify exactly when those times are.

The Unsuccessful....Can't.

Oh man, the MESA truth comes out! Now we know where the entitlement stuff comes from. Sorry you didn't make upgrade in 10 months. That Mesa/Trans states ops was one serious brotherhood. Your brother in arms Jetzz flies wingman nice and tight! Good deal for the passengers that quick upgrade didn't fly though! 😀 Give me my 330 , I want it now!!!

 

[sumadarson]

That's a great question my main man. You see, the 24/7 role is for a few easties we see here, one of which who has been reincarnated about seven times over the last five years. Anger is a extremely volatile fuel and we can see it here every day, so the trick is to stay out of the fray and enjoy the bouncing heads banging into the walls from a safe distance. After a period of time we usually see a gradual retreat from the preposterous claims from the drunken uSAP honeymooners- now with the company DJ left hook to Cleary we see AFOs have redrawn their retreating lines a little closer to home. Delay delay delay, is the cry! The fat guy in the phoenix road show equating crew meals to seniority is, well, finished- kaput- over. So now's the time to jump my man! And here we are today- just a couple weeks away from St. Nic!!!

You use the term, my main man, sir, do you claim to be a professional pilot? It sounds to me that you have been spending a lot of time around those that have transported drugs.

 

[No Land Green]

UMMM! It must be that new east coast usapa math. The east has 3400 active pilots plus another 500 LTD ect. You had better check that usapa math. 1000 out of 3900 is not half.

It will be 2017 until the east retires 1000 pilot not 5 years. It will be 2030 before you get 3200 off the property.

How many of those 1000 will be coming out of the right seat? That is what you guys are complaining about right that you will retire as F/O's.

You really think that in 5 years you are going to recover the last 15 years of losses at LOA 93 wages. You really do need help with your math.

Believe what you want. In 2007 before age 65 moved up 385 numbers in that year alone........My math is fine, you just don't have access to it. I'm living the East math.........

 

[No Land Green]

So, going from 81/hr Narrowbody F/O to 95/hr RJ Capt is "...good stuff ?? "


YGTBSM.


CV

......I guess we won't see any West Pilots wanting that E-190 Captain seat any more. Thanks for validating that Convair.....

 

[nic4us]

I'm living the East math.........

East math is like crew meals!!!!!

No matter what is under the tin foil, it is just wrong!!!

 

[No Land Green]

East math is like crew meals!!!!!

No matter what is under the tin foil, it is just wrong!!!

You don't live it, you have no idea. The March 2011 Bid is just a "taste" of what is to come with "East Math"........BTW, the "crew meals" in BDA are really good, I hope we don't negotiate those AWAy............. 😉

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

You know, it's funny. Just before reading your post I was starting to think exactly the same thing. There is so much talk about the (supposed) attrition train leaving the station, the LOA93 pay restoration, and separate ops. They're even hoping Parker will split the airline again, and one poster does nothing but post links to ancient history thinking others will lose focus on what a J.A. he really is. Sounds like delay is their only remaining tactic, and the reality of not escaping binding arbitration or the Nic list is setting in. Finally a step in the right direction. One baby step closer to reality is better than none at all.

BTW, prechilill... expect a whole bunch of DOH talk all of sudden to now that the secret is out, as they will try desperately to put the cat back in the bag. Lot's of tough talk to follow...

Here is really tough talk, "CARD DRIVE"! BTW the secret is out, word up, We could really care less what move is next, because the group your dealing with has 2 priorities DOH, RETIREMENT!MM!

 

[sumadarson]

January 2011,

LOA 93 grievance sided in the companies favor. News of this delayed due to concern about the transportation system.

Usairways Declaratory Judgment, dismissed. News of this delayed due to concern about the transportation system.

Contract signed with USAPA retroactive to January 2010, with Date of hire for pilots.

The west phx operations corporate transacted out to Mesa.

The East operation corporate transacted out to another entity yet to be announced.

There will be no corporate headquarters in PHX.

Life goes on for the employees.

 

[cleardirect]

Here is really tough talk, "CARD DRIVE"! BTW the secret is out, word up, We could really care less what move is next, because the group your dealing with has 2 priorities DOH, RETIREMENT!MM!

Get on with it. Could you crank that retirement up to about 500 per year. The sooner you east guys depart the sooner we can fix the mess you left.

 

[Metroyet]

January 2011,

LOA 93 grievance sided in the companies favor. News of this delayed due to concern about the transportation system.

Usairways Declaratory Judgment, dismissed. News of this delayed due to concern about the transportation system.

Contract signed with USAPA retroactive to January 2010, with Date of hire for pilots.

The west phx operations corporate transacted out to Mesa.

The East operation corporate transacted out to another entity yet to be announced.

There will be no corporate headquarters in PHX.

Life goes on for the employees.

I hope you remembered to grab some kleenex with that little bottle of lotion!!

 

[sumadarson]

My link

 

[cleardirect]

January 2011,

LOA 93 grievance sided in the companies favor. News of this delayed due to concern about the transportation system.

Usairways Declaratory Judgment, dismissed. News of this delayed due to concern about the transportation system.

Contract signed with USAPA retroactive to January 2010, with Date of hire for pilots.

The west phx operations corporate transacted out to Mesa.

The East operation corporate transacted out to another entity yet to be announced.

There will be no corporate headquarters in PHX.

Life goes on for the employees.

Let me ask you a question. If you get DOH why would you want the company fragmented. You just forced 85% of the west pilots below your active F/O's. Wouldn't you want to keep us around for furlough fodder and the captain seats? fragmentation takes the airplanes to. So you guy go back to being the lowly east coast commuter.

Maybe you are not so sure that you are going to get DOH after all.

 

[No Land Green]

Get on with it. Could you crank that retirement up to about 500 per year. The sooner you east guys depart the sooner we can fix the mess you left.

Your math says it won't happen that way.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Get on with it. Could you crank that retirement up to about 500 per year. The sooner you east guys depart the sooner we can fix the mess you left.

SURE with the pension investigation , loa 93 griev, we could step it up to the point fragmentation is your only option, it's a risk thing! MM!