US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nic4us]

ALPAphiles traded almost 3,000 junior jobs, paycuts, lost medical, lost sick time, the pension, and the Jets4Jobs lie to keep their Lexus. If you can't see the difference yet then you should study a little harder before you raise your hand in class.

Oh, pick me..pick me...I think I see the difference.

ALPA lied for a Lexus, usapa does it for a Taurus.

 

[Code Name V]

Why does this sound familiar?

Oh yeah, after the Allies rolled into Germany and started picking up solders. “I was just doing my job” “I was supporting my leader” I was supporting my country” “I was just following orders”

The longer this goes the more pathetic the east becomes trying to justify your actions.

You know, for as much as I can't stand you and have no interest in trying to argue with the ignorant; at least you stick together in what you perceive, as do we, as a fight for your lives. As far as comparing USAPA followers to Hitler followers, you are way off base and again, not interested in the argument. Germany had some great leaders and great soldiers. Just because Hitler was psychotic did not give his soldiers reason to betray one another. Those that did deserved to be fragged. If you don't like the leadership, you vote them out. That's called Democracy. Betrayal is called cowardice.

V

 

[prechilill]

ALPAphiles traded almost 3,000 junior jobs, paycuts, lost medical, lost sick time, the pension, and the Jets4Jobs lie to keep their Lexus. If you can't see the difference yet then you should study a little harder before you raise your hand in class.

You mean the east pilots running YOUR union did that- your very own pilots dude! Now you hammers voted in a new group to screw you over and just like last time you can't see it happening this time. You're on a bankrupcy contract bud and will be for a couple more years and in the end you will still have Nicolau! Lol
You east guys are more fun to watch than monkeys crapping on each other at the zoo! From one episode to the next- the entertainment keeps coming

 

[luvthe9]

Probably right. It will be bench trial. The judge will listen and decide.

Not this either. Your case will be deep sixed, again......

 

[cleardirect]

Not this either. Your case will be deep sixed, again......

So you hope. Anything other than your opinion?

 

[luvthe9]

So you hope. Anything other than your opinion?

Yes, your legal team. In a nutshell, they suck.

 

[Phoenix]

...
You east guys are more fun to watch than monkeys crapping on each other at the zoo! ...

That is quite some taste you have in entertainment. I always wondered where the artistic genius came from to invent the goat video.

 

[john john]

This list is long for the non rookies


Thanks Nos I love these trips down memory lane with you 😀

AWA320

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0611/105.html
America's Worst Airline
America West stands out as a paragon of badness. It ranks worst in customer complaints, worst in lost luggage, worst in cabin comfort and next-to-worst in on-time performance

February 17, 2000 would prove to be an omen for the year. Eagle, the automated dispatch system, went down for over five hours. At the time, America West had no backup dispatch system, leading to over 280 cancellations over three days. Passengers were left stranded around the system, boosting the industry-high complaint rate. America West was rapidly becoming known as "America Worst" for its customer service and operational problems.
The relationship with the FAA was poor, leading to further restrictions on growth until the FAA was assured maintenance could handle the extra aircraft. The airline was not in good shape.
Tempe-based America West Airlines was hit with a $5 million fine over aircraft maintenance and operations issues. At the time, it was the largest fine in U.S. aviation history.

Among the allegations: that America West flew 17 Airbus A320 aircraft that were overdue for required inspections. Public documents showed that the airline flew an additional 185 times after the airline was notified that inspections had been missed.

Yet AmWest is only the worst in a field crowded with incompetence. The major carriers have turned business travel into an inescapable evil--a hair shirt with wings. You call an airline and are told your flight will take off on time, only to arrive at the airport and be kept waiting for hours. The food is awful, when you can get any, and thousands upon thousands of bags are misplaced or lost (see Baggage, p. 108). Airline seats seem designed for stick figures (see Comfort; p. 110). Complain about any of this and you risk arrest (see box, Seething on a Jet Plane, p. 106).


AmWest (nyse: AWA - news - people ) almost goes out of its way to cultivate rocky relations with its work force, and employee bile poisons every public interaction. A senior executive at a rival airline says he has never seen a carrier whose approach to workers was so confrontational. "Employees feel they're being used," he says. "It's tough to get them to win one for the Gipper."
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0611/106.html

 

[Humty72]

Just because Hitler was psychotic did not give his soldiers reason to betray one another. Those that did deserved to be fragged. If you don't like the leadership, you vote them out. That's called Democracy. Betrayal is called cowardice.

V

So you think this guy was a fool and a coward?:

Claus von Stauffenberg



(sry for thread creep.. back to normal arguing)

 

[prechilill]

So you think this guy was a fool and a coward?:

Claus von Stauffenberg



(sry for thread creep.. back to normal arguing)

To an aestie and the UELs he is a coward for standing up for what is right. To the rest of the world Stauffenberg is a hero.

Stauffenberg = traderjake

 

[prechilill]

That is quite some taste you have in entertainment. I always wondered where the artistic genius came from to invent the goat video.

You guys make a good template for trashy art.

 

[Code Name V]

To an aestie and the UELs he is a coward for standing up for what is right. To the rest of the world Stauffenberg is a hero.

Stauffenberg = traderjake

you guys could spin a web...

v

 

[Code Name V]

you guys could spin a web...

v

....and traderjake does not equal Stauffenberg ; traitorjake = Benedict Arnold...

V

 

[prechilill]

....and traderjake does not equal Stauffenberg ; traitorjake = Benedict Arnold...

V

I totally disagree, traderjake is about three grades above his peers. So, if trader is General Arnold, I am curious who you correlate Boeingboy with- our nations third President perhaps?

 

[cactusboy53]

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0611/105.html
America's Worst Airline
America West stands out as a parago...or the Gipper."
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0611/106.html

JohnJohn;
Nearly 11 YEARS AGO? REALLY? You're gonna have to find something with a lot less dust to argue your point here. Worst or First, we were still growing, making money, getting new airplanes, hiring, upgrading and just months away from christening Doug as the new ruler of AWA-land.

Post 9/11? First to fly, first to get ATSB loans from the government, first to bring back 9/11 furloughees, first to start hiring, first to begin new growth, first to get an improved contract in a post 9/11 market, and second to acquire an airline in financial distress (if you count the SWA / ATA transaction).

USAPA..........lowest pay to the last day.