It is used 2 times in that very short discussion. To me, that is extensive. Pardon me if you feel i exceeded the limit. And by the way, just using it ONCE in the discussion is fine for me, and hopefully for Kasher. There was NO other word referenced other than FROZEN. Kind of like the word DEAD, there is no doubt as to what it means, once or twice..... The rates frozen are the LOA 84 rates, or the CURRENT rate. There is no need to give the rate it reverts to. The term FREEZE deals with those rates. That is what they go back to, not some new rate. Show us where it says they have to go to a new NEGOTIATED rate? The date Dec 31 2009 was there for a reason. That is a nice cold day in December, where things thaw to the old rate. Since we are questioning, why the date Clear? Why is the date there? And even more importantly of why the dates are so important, ESPECIALLY the start date,(even more than the end date) clearly 5/01/04 is this: This is the START point. They could not reach earlier into the contract to achieve the lower pay rate. Did that FREEZE start any other date? NO. Why not? It had that date. An east pilot looked at his W-2 and saw the cut started on that date. So if that date meant nothing as you say, then how would they, how could they, ever PICK A POINT TO START THE CUT??? So if that May date meant something, as every east pilot and the COMPANY knows, as that is the date the cuts started, then how can they arbitrarily blow off the Dec 31 2009 as some date that means nothing? They can't! It has absolute meaning as does the first date, when something drastic started.Something drastic ended. The FREEZE ended. The very fact they used the start date, in itself validates the end date. Why is the date in the pay discussion, and NO other section? Somebody as smart as Kasher will see the date means something. FREEZE THROUGH DEC 31, 2009. Not one day longer. It ends on that date. We got Parker by the short ones on Dec 31 2009, and most of us knew it. You have a nice day clear.