US Pilots Labor Discussion

[OTTER574]

When the French Revolution occurred many people had to stand in line for their turn at the guillotine. Some took great pride that they were at the back of the line. They were glad that they weren't the idiots at the front.

usapa's mantra is lowest pay to the last day (total and complete union corruption and embarrassment)....usapa, hopefully soon will be history!

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[Phoenix]

usapa's mantra is lowest pay to the last day (total and complete union corruption and embarrassment)....usapa, hopefully soon will be history!

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Go back and read my post over and over until you understand it.

 

[EastUS1]

I takes 20 posts to point out the stupidity in each east post.

You guys work me too hard.

Ummm.....errr...hokay then. If that actually makes ANY sense at all to you, welll... some "slight" suggestion towards enhancing your skills at analysis and ready summary "might" be made here....no matter. 😉

Enjoy.

PS: Don't work yourself too hard.....

 

[luvthe9]

Can't wait to see when the old AOL boys start to sue APA, you know that's coming. 😱

 

[OTTER574]

Go back and read my post over and over until you understand it.

I understand it quite well and many of your former posts, BTW...Rats jumping off a sinking ship comes to mind in regards to you and usapa.

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[Phoenix]

I understand it quite well and many of your former posts, BTW...Rats jumping off a sinking ship comes to mind in regards to you and usapa.

OTTER

You appear like a drunken pirate sitting in the crows nest at the top of the mast, pissing on all the pirates below, singing for joy that you will be that last one to drown as the ship sinks. 🙄

 

[nic4us]

Can't wait to see when the old AOL boys start to sue APA, you know that's coming. 😱

Man,,,,, you are a day late and a dollar short.

Why would AOL sue the APA? Absolutely no need.

AOL was formed to bring litigation against the hostile union the east formed to steal west seniority.

The APA may very well become a short term adversary in the seniority integration of LCC and AMR, but unless they disregard any integration method after the fact (the way the usapa attempted to do), there will be no reason to sue. Unless of course you believe the company and the APA agreed to a backdoor method to disregard McCaskill-Bond. In which case it won't just be the APA getting sued, and you eastholes will be right there helping fund the suit.

 

[Res Judicata]

Can't wait to see when the old AOL boys start to sue APA, you know that's coming. 😱

Why on Earth would we need to sue our Union Brothers and Sisters? They got us an Industry leading contract!

 

[EastUS1]

Doug signed Industry leading contracts with 55 THOUSAND employees and 3 unions over at ANOTHER Airline.

Such F'in Idiots. I'm sure the APA is really impressed with USCABA.

Think on that a bit: "over at ANOTHER Airline" Leaving USAPA aside: Has your "mighty" AOL, the AFA....or ANYONE actually seen anything written that offers even the least warranty as to what's intended for the US employees? If so; kindly "share with the class".

Oh! From your latest: "They got us an Industry leading contract!.." Which you're certain includes the US people? Fine, and I'd hope it so, but...based on WHAT? I'm honestly not trying to be disagreeable for the sake of such, but I can't see where all this "certainty" is coming from, nor what it's based on.

 

[OTTER574]

You appear like a drunken pirate sitting in the crows nest at the top of the mast, pissing on all the pirates below, singing for joy that you will be that last one to drown as the ship sinks. 🙄

Next time you see bradford, cleary and the rest of the usapa gang in the crew room...Be sure and pat them on the back and congratulate them for the best money you ever spent to form a corrupt union called usapa..... 😉

usapa equals lowest pay to the last day!

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[EastUS1]

You appear like a drunken pirate sitting in the crows nest at the top of the mast, pissing on all the pirates below, singing for joy that you will be that last one to drown as the ship sinks. 🙄

Indeed. So many obvious questions remain unanswered. Since Doug's apparently promised the APA no furloughs from their group...(and yeah, I know..but I'll omit debating the the actual "value" of such a "promise" for now)..well...from where would furloughs come? Additionally; management evidently "did a deal" with American's major unions...sans ANY apparent consultation with, much less any "promises" made, to ANY union on the US side. Dear Doug has established that he has no problem with not integrating employee groups, and, in essential fact; even running entirely separate operations with wholly different contracts. Additionally; who can know that management isn't just doing WHATEVER it takes right now to get their little grubbies on American?...while readying themselves for BK2/scrapping any/all "promises"/contracts/etc, not long down the road? Perhaps I'm just being overly obtuse here, but any cause for excessive exuberance from ANY US employees seems a bit premature...to say the least.

 

[Phoenix]

Indeed. So many obvious questions remain unanswered. Since Doug's apparently promised the APA no furloughs from their group...(and yeah, I know..but I'll omit debating the the actual "value" of such a "promise" for now)..well...from where would furloughs come? Additionally; management evidently "did a deal" with American's major unions...sans ANY apparent consultation with, much less any "promises" made, to ANY union on the US side. Dear Doug has established that he has no problem with not integrating employee groups, and, in essential fact; even running entirely separate operations with wholly different contracts. Additionally; who can know that management isn't just doing WHATEVER it takes right now to get their little grubbies on American?...while readying themselves for BK2/scrapping any/all "promise"/contracts/etc, not long down the road? Perhaps I'm just being overly obtuse here, but any cause for excessive exuberance for ANY US employees seems a bit premature...to say the least.

Negotiating Update: AA/US Airways Merger
posted on April 21, 2012 16:18
By now, you are probably well aware that APA has been involved in negotiations with a potential merger partner. With AMR 1113 court hearings beginning and the potential abrogation of our contract just weeks away, the APA Negotiating Committee has reached a Conditional Labor and Plan of Restructuring Agreement with the management of US Airways. This agreement has the unqualified support of your National Officers and has been approved unanimously by your APA Board of Directors. This agreement is only valid if the bankruptcy court approves the US Airways restructuring plan.

Click here to view the agreement's key points and highlights on the members' side of alliedpilots.org.

Sooner or later the details will come out (from behind the APA members only section), and of course Chip will pretend he broke the story....

 

[OTTER574]

Indeed. So many obvious questions remain unanswered. Since Doug's apparently promised the APA no furloughs from their group...(and yeah, I know..but I'll omit debating the the actual "value" of such a "promise" for now)..well...from where would furloughs come? Additionally; management evidently "did a deal" with American's major unions...sans ANY apparent consultation with, much less any "promises" made, to ANY union on the US side. Dear Doug has established that he has no problem with not integrating employee groups, and, in essential fact; even running entirely separate operations with wholly different contracts. Perhaps I'm just being overly obtuse here, but any cause for excessive exuberance for ANY US employee seems a bit premature...to say the least.

Once again...east usapa don't even know the questions let alone the answers...you guys have just been T-Boned again by Parker and APA and don't even realize it yet... 😀

usapa will be remembered as the pimple on the butt of unionism.

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[Phoenix]

Once again...east usapa don't even know the questions let alone the answers...you guys have just been T-Boned again by Parker....and APA and don't even realize it yet... 😀

OTTER

Put it back in your pants already.

 

[Metroyet]

Indeed. So many obvious questions remain unanswered. Since Doug's apparently promised the APA no furloughs from their group...(and yeah, I know..but I'll omit debating the the actual "value" of such a "promise" for now)..well...from where would furloughs come? Additionally; management evidently "did a deal" with American's major unions...sans ANY apparent consultation with, much less any "promises" made, to ANY union on the US side. Dear Doug has established that he has no problem with not integrating employee groups, and, in essential fact; even running entirely separate operations with wholly different contracts. Additionally; who can know that management isn't just doing WHATEVER it takes right now to get their little grubbies on American?...while readying themselves for BK2/scrapping any/all "promise"/contracts/etc, not long down the road? Perhaps I'm just being overly obtuse here, but any cause for excessive exuberance for ANY US employees seems a bit premature...to say the least.

Relax. No big conspiracies are afoot. Parker wants a full on MERGER. Your worthless fake union USTUPID, has zero ability to function...on any level. We all know it. Parker isn't going to waste a breath on these fools. You're getting folded into APA lock stock and barrel. No votes of any kind are required either. That's how USAPA will finally meet its maker, (Satan).

This is called "checkmate". Parker ain't waiting, APA sure as hell isn't going to risk their pensions...they ain't waiting either. They need this deal and they'll get it. You get the biggest raise and my personal invitation to heretofore STFU.