Usairways To Do All Hawaii Flying

[LD3]

Yeah.

[post="301138"][/post]​

Is not the bottom line revenue?? Whether pax are flown on 757 or 767??

 

[FM2436]

Yeah, really, who the hell cares? Tourist flights like Hawaii sound glamerous, but BELIEVE me, they AREN'T!! Everyone is a newlywed couple, everyone is celebrating their anniversary, and everyone feels they should be upgraded to F/C. We see the same thing on the island flights in the carribean and I promise you all you will see the same with Hawaii. It will get old fast. So PHX base, have at it and enjoy. 😉

[post="299647"][/post]​

I remember when United quit flying non-stop between Chicago and Hawaii. Reason being nearly all passengers were frequent flyers cashing in reward miles. The flights never made United any money.

 

[hp_fa]

Is not the bottom line revenue?? Whether pax are flown on 757 or 767??

[post="301146"][/post]​

OK, U folks have told us about all their wonderful International service. Now they seemingly want Hawaii too. Do you want ANC and SJO also? How about YVR and YYC?

Is there anything else you want from our junior workforce? Maybe some layoffs for us?

 

[Hope777]

Just an F.Y.I. , USAir never did the Hawaii proving runs. They were done way back in 1989 by PIEDMONT Airlines.

 

[Twicebaked]

OK, U folks have told us about all their wonderful International service.  Now they seemingly want Hawaii too.  Do you want ANC and SJO also?  How about YVR and YYC?

Is there anything else you want from our junior workforce?  Maybe some layoffs for us?

[post="301177"][/post]​

This s#@t of yours, theirs, ours is childish. In a few hours it will all be OURS!!!! We are ONE. Stop crying about this stupid s#@t. It's a job. You serve a coke or fly a plane the same way wherever you are going. PHX will see some of their trips eventually sent to other bases as will every other base in YOUR new system. Get the f&*% over it already. geeez

 

[hp_fa]

OKI, in other words you want it all. Thanks.

 

[Twicebaked]

OKI, in other words you want it all. Thanks.

[post="301191"][/post]​

What?? Did I say that?? NO. I have worked for US which as MANY bases and I (with every other f/a and pilot) am used to having routes and them being taken away. I am happy with my International trips and West coast trips. I have stated this too many times before.....you are no longer a regional carrier, but a GLOBAL carrier with many bases with many new routes. Why is everyone only focusing on negative issues of this merger?

 

[a320av8r]

It would only take one day ground school to qualify the Cactus pilots on the 767.

Eventually we could see CLT/PHX/HNL, HNL/LAS/PHL etc.
Crew change in PHX or LAS.
Would be good aircraft utilization.

I don't care who flies it as long as it is flown and profitable.

 

[N924PS]

Just an F.Y.I. , USAir never did the Hawaii proving runs. They were done way back in 1989 by PIEDMONT Airlines.

[post="301178"][/post]​

I don't think that is 100% correct. The LAX Chief Pilot took a USAir B767 to Honolulu sometime in the early '90's on a proving run for USAir.

 

[Bear96]

I remember when United quit flying non-stop between Chicago and Hawaii. Reason being nearly all passengers were frequent flyers cashing in reward miles. The flights never made United any money.

[post="301173"][/post]​

The ORD-HNL flights were suspended temporarily due to pilot crew rest and staffing issues with the 777 configuration UA chose to use on that route after the retirement of the DC10, as I understand it.

They have been back for some time now. And at least for the past winter or two there has been other nonstop service between ORD and the Hawaiian Islands on UA besides just HNL.

Whether they actually "made money" or not, I don't know. Obviously not many -- if any -- routes have actually "made money" in the UA network over the past several years!

 

[SegmentKing]

Actually you'd be surprised about the ORD/HNL flight... its NOT all frequent flyers!! Those seats are a bit more limited as United would rather funnel those pax thru LAX/SFO than expensive ORD and take up valuable seats on connecting flights.

Apple Vacations & Pleasant Hawaiian have been some of UA's strongest supports for Hawaii -- although PH used ATA exclusively for a few years.

 

[US1YFARE]

You serve a coke or fly a plane the same way wherever you are going.

[post="301180"][/post]​

actually, i think HP serves Pepsi.....i do hope, however, that they get rid of the greek scrambled eggs after the merger---they are horrible.

Seriously, though, I don't hear any F/A's talking about moving to the PHX base. And, take it from a pax, you don't want to go to PHL. :blink:

 

[PHX-F/A]

Wrong answer. AWA announced Hawaii long before any merger agreement was signed.

[post="299066"][/post]​

That does not sound correct. The merger was announced in May and the Hawaii service was announce in June. EOW training for flight attendants started in April so that the majority of the workforce would be trained should there be an opportunity to start service . Even if we did not start service to HNL or OGG, the EOW qualification would making flying to SJO and CUN much more economical as a more direct route could be flown.

 

[PHX-F/A]

AWA is still in the process of ETOPS certification. Next test run is at the end of September. It all hinges on the FA's being able to perform the evacuation procedures correctly. It is still planned that AWA crews will fly the Hawaii routes. Any statements on US Airways crews on the Hawaii routes is rumor..

[post="299155"][/post]​

The F/A's can only perform the drills correctly if training does their part correctly. The supplemental workbook that went out with a companion DVD has errors in it.

 

[ebwgs]

"Do you want ANC and SJO also? How about YVR and YYC?"

Those are interesting cities. U already flies SJO. I think U would rather keep Paris, Rome, Dublin, and Munich. And before long you'll have access to those trips too. Both work groups should count their blessings.