2015 Fleet Service thread

[WeAAsles]

Overspeed is being sarcastic Weaz set up that survey for me will you

You haven't been here long enough to know Overspeed. Eventually you might be able to figure something out. O/S is NOT your everyday average member. He has a brain.

 

[Albert]

while the talk is about getting the "DL type" wages  I would be more concerned with what does the company want in return???   Cities?  Catering?  anything else??     I feel we should not have to give anything up but that be in a perfect world.   Some of the folks I work with who had worked in DCA said that the company had done the numbers for catering for example repeatedly and its far cheaper to have our own catering in house in DC   If that's the case  then I have to question how is it like in other stations whereas we do catering  vs LSG doing it  such as what LAA has had for years..   Also  I wonder if they would also offer a buy out package   and would it include medical   I know a lot of folks in my station would love to get something like that but the medical has to be there  

Robbed  will you please answer my question it seems that Weaz has snapped and is running amok Hes resorted to calling me names and hurting my feelings but I must persevere. I want to know if the folks in your station (BWI correct?) are happy with the progress of negotiations.

 

[Albert]

33 readers right now. I've seen it at 70 something in the last few days. The high I ever saw was 130. 

All are here to see how CLUELESS you are.

And yes I'm normally laid back until I've had enough trying to explain things to someone and then I have to tell them what they really are. If someone doesn't tell you, then you'll never learn anything. 

Think about it Al. You keep admitting you're wrong and then you come back on here with the same crap. It's like one second I think you might be waking up and then the next minute you're snoring again.

Al do YOURSELF a favor. Stay in your room running tracers and watch movies on your phone or something. I'll get the number over there from FG and call you when it's time to vote. Or better yet, don't vote. I'd really be scared you'd do something CLUELESS there as well.

OK ill do that. Do you think you will be contacting me within the next 18 months or so? I want my survey then I'Il go away.

 

[Albert]

You haven't been here long enough to know Overspeed. Eventually you might be able to figure something out. O/S is NOT your everyday average member. He has a brain.

Do you realize how insane you are. You just called the average members on here brainless.I actually am fond of you and dont want to see you jumping off a causway or something

 

[bob@las-AA]

Do you realize how insane you are. You just called the average members on here brainless.I actually am fond of you and dont want to see you jumping off a causway or something

Albert, you would hard pressed to get a real answer from anyone on here.

 

[WeAAsles]

Let's do some simple math again like the good old days to see where we would have stood had we reached an agreement with the company before this Delta turn of events.

$26.54 (Original Delta Plus 7%)
$29.27 (New Delta plus 3%) 

Value between the two $2.73. $2.73 times 40 times 4 = $436.80 per month. Times 12 = $5,241.6 per year. Times 5 (Likely 5 year deal) $26,208

That does not include any OT, CS worked, Holiday pay or whatever you put into your 401k (Potentially still matched at 5.5%)

So just the basic loss (Since we know the FA's were refused an increase) would have been $26,208 over the life of the contract for a member who is at TOS Full Time. That $26,208 was just the bare bones minimum.

NOW that little bit of news that I posted earlier about UAL saying that a NEW "Market Rate" had been set here at AA from the agents TA. What possibly more loss might we have been potentially looking at if the bar is raised again and it's applied to us?
 

 

[bob@las-AA]

But to clarify DP's backpedaling, it's D + 3 on the new rate.

 

[Albert]

Albert, you would hard pressed to get a real answer from anyone on here.

What is the mood in your station do they think the Ass is doing a good job?

 

[700UW]

But to clarify DP's backpedaling, it's D + 3 on the new rate.

Which is a double digit percentage raise, $4.87 an hour.

 

[Albert]

Let's do some simple math again like the good old days to see where we would have stood had we reached an agreement with the company before this Delta turn of events.

$26.54 (Original Delta Plus 7%)
$29.27 (New Delta plus 3%) 

Value between the two $2.73. $2.73 times 40 times 4 = $436.80 per month. Times 12 = $5,241.6 per year. Times 5 (Likely 5 year deal) $26,208

That does not include any OT, CS worked or whatever you put into your 401k (Potentially still matched at 5.5%)

So just the basic loss (Since we know the FA's were refused an increase) would have been $26,208 over the life of the contract for a member who is at TOS Full Time.

NOW that little bit of news that I posted earlier about UAL saying that a NEW "Market Rate" had been set here at AA from the agents TA. What possibly more loss might we have been potentially looking at if the bar is raised again and it's applied to us?
 

Ok  HOW LONG ARE YOU WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL UA SETTLES?

 

[bob@las-AA]

Let's do some simple math again like the good old days to see where we would have stood had we reached an agreement with the company before this Delta turn of events.$26.54 (Original Delta Plus 7%)$29.27 (New Delta plus 3%) 
Value between the two $2.73. $2.73 times 40 times 4 = $436.80 per month. Times 12 = $5,241.6 per year. Times 5 (Likely 5 year deal) $26,208
That does not include any OT, CS worked, Holiday pay or whatever you put into your 401k (Potentially still matched at 5.5%)
So just the basic loss (Since we know the FA's were refused an increase) would have been $26,208 over the life of the contract for a member who is at TOS Full Time. That $26,208 was just the bare bones minimum.
NOW that little bit of news that I posted earlier about UAL saying that a NEW "Market Rate" had been set here at AA from the agents TA. What possibly more loss might we have been potentially looking at if the bar is raised again and it's applied to us?

$2.73 x 2080 hours = $5678.40 per year
$5678.40 / 26 = $218.40 per check
$5678.40 x 5 years = $28,392.00

 

[WeAAsles]

Ok  HOW LONG ARE YOU WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL UA SETTLES?

Well obviously at the very least I would say 2 more weeks. Uh duh.

As a result, both sides have agreed to reconvene in Fort Lauderdale in two weeks’ time after the company has had an opportunity to evaluate the impact on industry market rates of yesterday’s American tentative agreement.

http://www.unitednegotiations.com/employees/technicians/negotiations-updates/2015/10/01/ibt-negotiations-update/index.html

 

[Albert]

Let's do some simple math again like the good old days to see where we would have stood had we reached an agreement with the company before this Delta turn of events.

$26.54 (Original Delta Plus 7%)
$29.27 (New Delta plus 3%) 

Value between the two $2.73. $2.73 times 40 times 4 = $436.80 per month. Times 12 = $5,241.6 per year. Times 5 (Likely 5 year deal) $26,208

That does not include any OT, CS worked, Holiday pay or whatever you put into your 401k (Potentially still matched at 5.5%)

So just the basic loss (Since we know the FA's were refused an increase) would have been $26,208 over the life of the contract for a member who is at TOS Full Time. That $26,208 was just the bare bones minimum.

NOW that little bit of news that I posted earlier about UAL saying that a NEW "Market Rate" had been set here at AA from the agents TA. What possibly more loss might we have been potentially looking at if the bar is raised again and it's applied to us?
 

You are making it sound like the ASS knew what they were doing and waited for DLs rates to go up. DL anouncement was a surprise to everyone. With your reasoning why dont you go get a piece of coal give it to 700 to put in a private place and wait patiently until it turns into a diamond

 

[WeAAsles]

$2.73 x 2080 hours = $5678.40 per year
$5678.40 / 26 = $218.40 per check

Well Bob I must say thank you for a change. I've always liked English better than math.

So $5678.40 times 5 = $28,392

Better?
 

 

[Albert]

$2.73 x 2080 hours = $5678.40 per year
$5678.40 / 26 = $218.40 per check
$5678.40 x 5 years = $28,392.00

Bob with those numbers you can also figure out how much we are losing each week by not having a contract