2015 Fleet Service thread

[conehead777]

Tim,
 
Exactly who isn't getting along? Is it MTC or Fleet? All this squabbling chatter from you only means one thing. You are going to make yet another failed attempt to run for office in 2016, and this is your way of setting up the "I can save you if I'm your AGC" mantra. Please spare us. If you have proof that there is dissention among the NC then please share it. Oh wait, you have proof but it for your eyes only, double top secret stuff you can't share with the regular Joe's on this forum, but in time we will see. Is that it? You alway have "proof" but never share it, you always are "in the know", when in actuality you were wrong almost all of the time with regards to LUS information, come on. When will you stop with the "I know more than you" and just give it a rest? I, personally would rather our NC take their time and get it right, rather than rush into JCBA talks, and potentially miss some pretty important stuff for its members. I hope you get crushed again next year, maybe then you will realize that the members do not want you as an AGC and stop already, we have already told you twice via elections but you still just can't grasp that WE DON'T WANT YOU REPRESENTING US!
 
 
Regards

i personally ready for this sorry association to start negotiation before Russia attack isis for bombing that a321 they can start negotiating and resolve the difference in the aa versus us crew chief seniority issue . of course theres dissension in the ass there not at the table with the company there fighting about the crew chief issue and I'm sure other things because the ass want communicate what the issues are. i don't need proof both unions are sorry the twu and the sorry contracts at aa and the iam the us contracts aren't much better in pay then aa . plus the iam contract with Boeing to keep the 777x in Everett is the worst contract i have seen in a company thats making money and airplane orders that will take  years to finish them all. the proof i see is the actions that the iam and twu has been pro company not pro labor. they care about the dues coming in and they agree with the company to do that. in the Boeing contracts the local was against it but the intl pushed it thru again for due moneys they froze Boeings pensions google it bling it what ever you will see. and i agree with tim he's not a kool aid drinker like you and all the other koolaid drinkers are. its time we get a leading industry contract and stop the string of industry losing contracts .

 

[Albert]

Forcing anyone at any age is absurd, with the new law governing multi-co plans and the outsourcing of jobs
that would have been the members that would keep the plan solvent it is on the same path as the Teamster
plan in the story.  So please do not be offended when LAA employees circle the wagons on this issue but
any joint agreement with the IAMPF mandatory in any way for LAA employees is DOA.

 Not offended at all would do the same if I were LAA. How do you feel about new hires would you vote no if they were  not given the option and automatically in the plan?

 

[chilokie1]

 Not offended at all would do the same if I were LAA. How do you feel about new hires would you vote no if they were  not given the option and automatically in the plan?

 
By forcing any TWU member into the IAMPF present or future is proof to me the only 
reason for the association was to increase membership in the IAMPF.  That being said
it would be very hard to vote for, this is the #1reason I was against the association to 
begin with. 

 

[Talos]

 
By forcing any TWU member into the IAMPF present or future is proof to me the only 
reason for the association was to increase membership in the IAMPF.  That being said
it would be very hard to vote for, this is the #1reason I was against the association to 
begin with. 

The association has worked hard at it and achieved laughing stock status. I imagine Parker and his people are counting each month as the association members pay for their own contract. Surely the two unions must be aware of the sick feelings many of their members have about them. Yet they continue to flounder like no big deal. The association is proving to be a disaster and is approaching catastrophic disaster. 
i read they are disputing crew chief seniority? You've got to be kidding. This is just pathetic. I thought seniority was decided long ago. Surely the company is laughing their asses off at all this. This clown act has gotten so bad that I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

[Albert]

The association has worked hard at it and achieved laughing stock status. I imagine Parker and his people are counting each month as the association members pay for their own contract. Surely the two unions must be aware of the sick feelings many of their members have about them. Yet they continue to flounder like no big deal. The association is proving to be a disaster and is approaching catastrophic disaster. 
i read they are disputing crew chief seniority? You've got to be kidding. This is just pathetic. I thought seniority was decided long ago. Surely the company is laughing their asses off at all this. This clown act has gotten so bad that I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Almost $1000 a month out of your pocket....cry

 

[Tim Nelson]

i personally ready for this sorry association to start negotiation before Russia attack isis for bombing that a321 they can start negotiating and resolve the difference in the aa versus us crew chief seniority issue . of course theres dissension in the ass there not at the table with the company there fighting about the crew chief issue and I'm sure other things because the ass want communicate what the issues are. i don't need proof both unions are sorry the twu and the sorry contracts at aa and the iam the us contracts aren't much better in pay then aa . plus the iam contract with Boeing to keep the 777x in Everett is the worst contract i have seen in a company thats making money and airplane orders that will take  years to finish them all. the proof i see is the actions that the iam and twu has been pro company not pro labor. they care about the dues coming in and they agree with the company to do that. in the Boeing contracts the local was against it but the intl pushed it thru again for due moneys they froze Boeings pensions google it bling it what ever you will see. and i agree with tim he's not a kool aid drinker like you and all the other koolaid drinkers are. its time we get a leading industry contract and stop the string of industry losing contracts .

i dont like kool aid. Some posters are shills for their agc.

regards,

 

[ograc]

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[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
 
Again, if you have proof please share it. I never said that they were in agreement. Please re-read my reply to you. I asked you who was "squabbling", was it MTC or Fleet? Look I am in no hurry. Our stand alone CBA is good. That is why I said that I, personally, would rather our NC take their time. Me, my opinion alone. I do not speak for anybody but me. You however like to speak for the membership, a membership that doesn't want anything to do with you. Proven twice already. When will you learn?

Learn what?
Ive been thoroughly encouraged by serving the membership as a candidate and challenging the status quo. My teams have been so successful that we gave the membership the opportunity for an election, and the voting membership responded by giving my team 49% and 46% of the vote. And it was strong enuf support to cause mr klemm to insist on changing the bylaws to possibly do away with elections altogether. While i cant control what mr klemm does, i believe you and all other members believe in democracy and keeping our union accountable with elections regardless of who you vote for.
That said, im the only one that will carry that democratic flag once again and formulate a team so you can vote. The only reason why you wouldnt support that is if you do not want officer election. I believe officer elections have kept our officers more accountable than they would have been without elections and i think thats reasonable to think so.

regards,

 

[pjirish317]

In which election's did your "team" get 49% and 46% of the vote? Was it the nomination election or the actual officer election? I'm sure we can find the results of the officer elections to get the numbers. I am all for democracy, just not for your own self serving reasons. Let me ask you this, will you actually put together a team with at least some experience? Unlike your last group of LUS candidates, they, including yourself, would have been an absolute detriment to us. So knock yourself out with the righteous call to action for a democratic vote, I'm in full support there, just please don't say you are doing it for the members, you and I both know that you aren't.  I will be sure to rally as many people to vote against you as I can.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Rally whoever you want, the more participation the better. Do you agree with the newly proposed bylaw limiting candidacy to those members who can get ten local endorsements?
 
regards,

 

[bigbear52]

Are there any more openings for FSC's at DFW? I know they have added a lot in the last few months.

Afw closing and bumping to the system , it would be nice to stay local.

 

[Rogallo]

Are there any more openings for FSC's at DFW? I know they have added a lot in the last few months.

Afw closing and bumping to the system , it would be nice to stay local.

Doesn't look like it.
Do you have access to Jetnet? Transfers and Bids page?

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

Keep an eye on it,DFW is always posting FT openings.

 

[cltrat]

i dont like kool aid. Some posters are shills for their agc.

regards,

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[ograc]

Rally whoever you want, the more participation the better. Do you agree with the newly proposed bylaw limiting candidacy to those members who can get ten local endorsements?
 
regards,

 
The floor is open to discussion and opinion on this proposed bylaw change?