2015 Fleet Service thread

[JFK Fleet Service]

I get it all subsidiaries keep company time for vacation thats not the end of the world, Just at of curiosity is AMR services TWU also?

They were as a matter of fact,well at least at JFK they were.
 
After AMR sold them off, they became Worldwide Flight Services.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

Dave It looks like the tortoise has stopped and is hiding in its shell

 
"The Ass is...Puckered up?"
 

 

[AANOTOK]

I keep ciphering through this and other pages looking for something positive. Can't find anything. Anyone have anything...
And I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night, nothing special.  B)
 
Seriously, this mess gets more messy with each passing day!

 

[Jester]

Tim you keep saying that they are squabbling or fighting? Once and for all if you know something, spill the beans? 
 

 
Word around the campfire is that the two unions are meeting this weekend back east to discuss many of the contractual differences, so it doesn't sound as if they are ready to negotiate with the Company.  Squabbling?  Fighting?  Who knows... but I am sure that both sides think some parts of their contract are better than the other side.

 

[AANOTOK]

Association...I have yet to receive that update.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Word around the campfire is that the two unions are meeting this weekend back east to discuss many of the contractual differences, so it doesn't sound as if they are ready to negotiate with the Company.  Squabbling?  Fighting?  Who knows... but I am sure that both sides think some parts of their contract are better than the other side.

^^^^This^^^^

 

[cltrat]

Nooo...your occupational seniority date.If you spend 15 years as a PT'er,then get tired of getting reamed and become a CC, you are a CC with 15 years.

thks JFK as it should be

 

[Albert]

Association...I have yet to receive that update.

My uncles cousin saw the negotiating comittee in MIA they were pushing Weaazles 20 year old mustang to Pep boys. You could really use that raise now Weaz looks like you might have to settle for that brand new used 2003 K car

 

[Tim Nelson]

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2015/10/16/planned-pension-cuts-outrage-retired-teamsters.html
Union members need to read and research. These union funds are a racket and it is just stupid as heck to enhance our retirement by dumping even more funds into the IAMPF. Obama chose not support union members but aligned with the Union Bosses who sponsored the bill instead of standing up for hundreds of thousands of union members who will now be sacrificed by their Union.

Only with these arsehat multi employer plans has this ridiculous law been signed to.

And the IAMPF had to whack hundreds of thousands of current union members just to survive the plan one year ago. Me being one of them who got future benefits whacked by 45%. Now, union pension trustees can steal from retirees and slash checks given 6 months notice. Never mind that the IAMPF has a ridiculous spousal offset. If you want to insure that your wife is taken care of, but you die, the good ole IAMPF trustees tax the hell out of your pension and stick it in their pockets instead of the ole lady. It calls this the 'spousal offset". The IAMPF is rigged and any union official who advocates MORE into that is just a shill for the IAM.

regards,

 

[Albert]

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2015/10/16/planned-pension-cuts-outrage-retired-teamsters.html
Union members need to read and research. These union funds are a racket and it is just stupid as heck to enhance our retirement by dumping even more funds into the IAMPF. Obama chose not support union members but aligned with the Union Bosses who sponsored the bill instead of standing up for hundreds of thousands of union members who will now be sacrificed by their Union.

Only with these arsehat multi employer plans has this ridiculous law been signed to.

And the IAMPF had to whack hundreds of thousands of current union members just to survive the plan one year ago. Me being one of them who got future benefits whacked by 45%. Now, union pension trustees can steal from retirees and slash checks given 6 months notice. Never mind that the IAMPF has a ridiculous spousal offset. If you want to insure that your wife is taken care of, but you die, the good ole IAMPF trustees tax the hell out of your pension and stick it in their pockets instead of the ole lady. It calls this the 'spousal offset". The IAMPF is rigged and any union official who advocates MORE into that is just a shill for the IAM.

regards,

Im 56 and sticking with the IAM pension with my fingers and toes crossed.  I dont want another nickel going in they had their chance and blew it.For the rest they should be given a choice the pension or 401. Forcing anyone over 45 into this is absurd

 

[saywhat]

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2015/10/16/planned-pension-cuts-outrage-retired-teamsters.htmlUnion members need to read and research. These union funds are a racket and it is just stupid as heck to enhance our retirement by dumping even more funds into the IAMPF. Obama chose not support union members but aligned with the Union Bosses who sponsored the bill instead of standing up for hundreds of thousands of union members who will now be sacrificed by their Union.Only with these arsehat multi employer plans has this ridiculous law been signed to.And the IAMPF had to whack hundreds of thousands of current union members just to survive the plan one year ago. Me being one of them who got future benefits whacked by 45%. Now, union pension trustees can steal from retirees and slash checks given 6 months notice. Never mind that the IAMPF has a ridiculous spousal offset. If you want to insure that your wife is taken care of, but you die, the good ole IAMPF trustees tax the hell out of your pension and stick it in their pockets instead of the ole lady. It calls this the 'spousal offset". The IAMPF is rigged and any union official who advocates MORE into that is just a shill for the IAM.regards,

You are for keeping current pension amounts though, correct? Just don't put any new money?

 

[Tim Nelson]

You are for keeping current pension amounts though, correct? Just don't put any new money?

In my situation, as a participant, the current company contribution of $1.15. However, that contribution sucks balls and should be a lot higher since I don't have profit sharing or any 401k contributions negotiated. LUS has the worst retirement contributions of any airline. In recognition of that, it is essential to raise company contributions into our retirements. Thus, any 'raised contributions' I would like to go into my 401k instead of someone else's hands to manage, and it would be very unfair if our negotiators didn't negotiate a choice for us.

regards,

 

[saywhat]

In my situation, as a participant, the current company contribution of $1.15. However, that contribution sucks balls and should be a lot higher since I don't have profit sharing or any 401k contributions negotiated. LUS has the worst retirement contributions of any airline. In recognition of that, it is essential to raise company contributions into our retirements. Thus, any 'raised contributions' I would like to go into my 401k instead of someone else's hands to manage, and it would be very unfair if our negotiators didn't negotiate a choice for us.regards,

Agree, retirement needs to be higher. If a choice is negotiated and some members don't get into pension, how would 3 prong approach to retirement be done?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Agree, retirement needs to be higher. If a choice is negotiated and some members don't get into pension, how would 3 prong approach to retirement be done?

In a perfect world, the choice would be similar to Fidelity where you could put a % into whatever prong. But I think a true 3 prong would be where a match % is negotiated for all, and the IAMPF is negotiated for all. Sorta like at United where they have a 3% match and a IAMPF $2 or so an hour based on % of total gross. I'm topped out, so obviously an IAMPF % based would benefit me and topped out earners more, whereas a dollar amount would benefit new hires and short timers more. So, I'd prefer the % based IAMPF.

regards,

 

[saywhat]

In a perfect world, the choice would be similar to Fidelity where you could put a % into whatever prong. But I think a true 3 prong would be where a match % is negotiated for all, and the IAMPF is negotiated for all. Sorta like at United where they have a 3% match and a IAMPF $2 or so an hour based on % of total gross. I'm topped out, so obviously an IAMPF % based would benefit me and topped out earners more, whereas a dollar amount would benefit new hires and short timers more. So, I'd prefer the % based IAMPF.regards,

Agree that both like UA would be great. BTW, if you haven't looked at pax ser contract you should, problems with some things. Think they should vote down.