IAM Fleet Service topic

[Tim Nelson]

Tales…

I'll look at introducing that document at some point!

Better yet… can you produce for us… all official communications from the IAM, prior to the ratification of the Transition Agreement… regarding the Seniority Integration Team… and the process by which merged seniority will be determined?

If any written overtures were present in the official IAM communications regarding ADJUSTED… and not CLASSIFICATION seniority dates, I will completely abandon this argument!

P.S. Let's file a grievance, a protest, and a lawsuit!

Roa,
Any grievance or DFR is baseless regarding this, IMO. I'm fairly certain on this.
The document that Canale put out during the TWU representational dispute is 'still' consistent with how it all came about. IAM pressed for DOH and they delivered it based on its definition in your contract. And the membership agreed to it. Remember, adjusted dates are incorporated within the DOH definition, even those before 1979. Date of Hire doesn't mean Date of Hire under your contract's definition. Seemingly a conflict of terms but under the broad contractual definition it takes on other meanings.

A few tried to explain this in this forum, but only Ramp Rogue and CLT seemed to pay any attention to it.

Moving forward, the continuing problem of not recognizing true DOH seniority gets further disadvantagous in future mergers.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[Ramp Rogue]

I tried to wake people up. But they seemed to be only concerned about their own seniorities well being. Now that more people are seeing the whole picture there seems to be more of an understanding as to how valuable DOH really is. There are more mergers on the horizon folks. This seniority issue is one that we must win NOW! If we don't, and we are involved in another merger we will really lose. Seniority is the only thing we have left. We must prevail in righting this seniority issue that has plagued us for so many years. Don't sell out again. This is a battle we must win.

Rogue

 

[cltrat]

I don't think it's a fight that can be won it's already signed off in that contract enough people were dumb enough to vote for

 

[roabilly]

I don't think it's a fight that can be won it's already signed off in that contract enough people were dumb enough to vote for

I ain't never fought ahh fight in my life that "people" thought I'd win!

I've lost ahh lot...I've won ahh lot... So.. be it... I ain't skeered!

Gitcha Sum!

 

[roadtrip]

I'm outta here and its going to be a Roadtrip leaving today see you down in JAX.

PS talked to SAN last week and we have a bunch
of guys going.....

 

[freedom]

I don't think it's a fight that can be won it's already signed off in that contract enough people were dumb enough to vote for

I guess it just depends on your defention of dumb ......


i personally think it would have been more "dumb" to have waited until oh say , december of 2009 to get things done ..... what with this horrible recession/depression almost upon us ....

i mean really , who could have predicted things would get this bad ? (scarcasm )

 

[cltrat]

I guess it just depends on your defention of dumb ......


i personally think it would have been more "dumb" to have waited until oh say , december of 2009 to get things done ..... what with this horrible recession/depression almost upon us ....

i mean really , who could have predicted things would get this bad ? (scarcasm )

nobody here wants to hear your brain dead comments go back to the cooler and write your silly journal

 

[freedom]

nobody here wants to hear your brain dead comments go back to the cooler and write your silly journa

You know what’s interesting , is if you go back in time and review the OLD iam fleet threads …. It’s actually quite amazing how I was correct most of the time …

But then I suppose most of you would have preferred that we not voted in this new contract …. That way you could have been shoved out the door with the 60 day rule … 🙄

 

[roabilly]

WOW… Freedum… and… Ms. Shocker!

This is just like tha “good ol’ days" … Let tha good Times Roll!

Awright boys… y’all are gonna have tahh drink one fer me next week… I’ll be stayin
at tha farm! I want ahh full report when yahh git back!

 

[NevadaHP]

OMG we have a new poster and they are nothing but negative to the membership i wonder who they are.. old canale regime..???

Im glad TN finally spoke on this issue, it will be very hard to overturn what has happened in that past. Im a westie and I know several employees who were screwed due to TEMP status similiar to part time status. My personal opinion is that the first day u worked for the company should be your bid date. However Im not clear on how past contracts clarified this issue with the east. I know for a fact that on the west if u were given temp status u were screwed in bid seniority. All I want is fair and equality between all.

Has anyone heard of this BS new attendance policy? This is what we need to focus on, this affects all employees, especially upstairs and downstairs and its apparent no else is held to these standards... WTF.. this is BS and it needs to be stopped.

 

[cltrat]

But then I suppose most of you would have preferred that we not voted in this new contract …. That way you could have been shoved out the door with the 60 day rule … 🙄

care to back up that statement with facts?

btw the definition of dumb could be misspelling definition? 🙄

 

[necigrad]

Not that I generally agree with Freedom, but in this PARTICULAR instance he is right. Had the TA not passed most of the furloughees in LAS would be comin up to the 60 days on November 5th. None have come back to work so far that I'm aware of.

 

[Garfield]

Not that I generally agree with Freedom, but in this PARTICULAR instance he is right. Had the TA not passed most of the furloughees in LAS would be comin up to the 60 days on November 5th. None have come back to work so far that I'm aware of.

yeah but it doesn't matter if they never call you back,or if it years later and you have moved on

 

[robbedagain]

If we had awaited, Id be willing to bet that the company and the union would have come up with a better agreement. For example, better sick than the current one. The 60 day rule should have never been applied to begin with. A better TA would have had more money that what the current top out rate is. IF SWA can pay their rampers 24 bucks an hr, lose the 3rd qtr dough, yet continue to RESPECT their employees, then it is very very clear to me that USAIRWAYS CAN DO THE SAME

 

[wings396]

As I have said before, this T/A has MANY issues that should have been better. Waiting for a "better offer" would have been a huge risk given the current economic conditions. We all had an idea that things were not all that good, but I don't think that anyone expected it to get this bad. While ths cost of fuel has dropped dramatically, passenger traffic is most likely to drop just as much. I don't personally think that the company would have made any better offer based on the difference between the 1st one and the current one. We can only hope that times are better when we go to the table in the future, and hopefully we can squeeze the company for improvements in several areas.