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I'm coming out of lurking because I have reached my absolute tolerance level of "stupid". You" west metal" employees have pretty much assured your own unemployment. Our union "representatives" played you for fools and apparently weren't wrong. Management is now fully confident that they can ramrod any conditions down our collective throats with no resistance. All that you have demonstrated is that fleet service employees deserve no more consideration than a toilet. (Deposit all of your crap here).
Thanks westies!!!... Oh and no consolation here but, plenty of schadenfreude :lol:

Oh yeah! Bring on some more of that schadenfreude! I am getting another 20% pay raise at the beginning of November which is in addition to the other 20% raise recieved six months ago! And I am already vested in the IAM pension as time when I was a TWU member counts! Yeah, I am so "stupid" for enjoying that 40% raise and my new pension (while I had no pension with the TWU agreement). Furthermore, the recent West furloughs had little to do with wages, but everything to do with the price of oil and the reduction in flying, so that dog won't hunt.

If this is your version of "schadenfreude" then allow me to quote Brer Rabbit, "Roast me! Hang me! Do whatever you please! Only please, please don't throw me into the briar patch!"

So Relates Jester.
 
Main Entry: ar·ro·gance
Pronunciation: \ˈer-ə-gən(t)s, ˈa-rə-\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions


If the shoe fit..........anyway since I am not allowed to express my true views towards you I have placed you on ignore and I suggest everyone else do the same. There is something wrong with trying to have a battle of wits against and unarmed man.

You are the weakest link............buh bye.
 
The ONLY thing I regret about the entire contract is that we had to let go of 19 field stations … American men and women that we had to toss under the bus … toss them into what ? If they hold on onto the last day of employment , what shall be left for them in terms of new jobs ? I shudder , I fear for them …. I can only hope and pray that the service companies that replace us airways offer them first crack at a job ….

May those 19 cities full of senior workers bump into your city. PHL has had enough of outta towners from the last merger we saw hundreds of PHL workers bumped outta there jobs. So let the 19 cities go to your station so you can reap the just rewards for throwing them under the bus.
 
May those 19 cities full of senior workers bump into your city. PHL has had enough of outta towners from the last merger we saw hundreds of PHL workers bumped outta there jobs. So let the 19 cities go to your station so you can reap the just rewards for throwing them under the bus.

Take heed and a warning to those thinking about transferring to PHX. The last guy who transferred in died 4 days on the job less than two weeks ago.

One can dress more for cold, but removing clothes for heat only goes so far.

So Warns Jester.
 
Take heed and a warning to those thinking about transferring to PHX. The last guy who transferred in died 4 days on the job less than two weeks ago.

One can dress more for cold, but removing clothes for heat only goes so far.

So Warns Jester.


Jester:
Sorry to hear about this. and no one in PHX ever has to worry me bumping you. I don't handle the heat very well any longer.
 
He**... sice we're all here... time tahh call out Nelson... Where are yahh Nelson?

Roa, I'm sure this board has been interesting without me. I only popped on here the other day to see if I missed any info on the convention. No, I will not be a big participant at yours and O'man's throwdown, however, I may be present. I realize there's always a time to celebrate but two 'participating throwdowns' for me in 12 months is a bit overdoing it. Besides, Rattails told me that I was starting to repeat myself.

A few things though.

item 1: The contract is fair and equitable [as measured by a democratic process where the majority determined it so] so there is no need in fussing about anything contractual other than perhaps violations of it. Any disputing of the contract, other than justifyable grievance discussion, is just gossip, disruptive and things of a busybody nature. Yes, I ran a campaign against it but the majority spoke so it's case closed and you work with the brotherhood on moving forward in administering it. FWIW: IMO, I can certainly understand why the great majority from the west voted for up to $6 hr pay increases. Can't knock them for it.

item 2: negotiations
While I don't want to knock the votes of the last contract, I do want to comment on the underlying philosophies that are foundational to the 'negotiations processes'.

For instance, while I can understand when Freedom sez he voted on the contract to get a $6 pay increase, I fundamentally reject freedom's otherness thinking that is apparently festered with narrow 'snapshot negotiations' mentality based on the spreading of fear and coersion by inept, self serving and deplorably poor leadership [insert Canale here]. A rightful negotiations strategy is more lucid and involves a 'broadness' that recognizes a long contract over economies that hit low and high points during the contracts duration. In such negotiations, the foundational position of a union shouldn't be based on the present cost of oil but the industry standards, and you work from that predicament. OTOH, your company practices negotiation strategies that recognize broader durational terms that help protect its position and interest. Otherwise, that glaring $2 billion in profits over 2 years of transitional talks would be haunting.

Canale and his 'altar boy bell ringers' were thrown out on their arses because of their 'piss clam contracts', 'pimping of their members', and self serving mentality. Not surprisingly, his own arrogance shut his ears when we told him we would be coming for him if he continued his labor busting ways that tore down the working conditions of working families. Knowing his ears were closed, I even gave him 'good advice' and asked him to 'save his ticket' and retire so at least he could get his "Iam Watch".

Alas, I am going to enjoy next week, especially when he gives a real union brother....the 'green jacket'.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
Take heed and a warning to those thinking about transferring to PHX. The last guy who transferred in died 4 days on the job less than two weeks ago.

One can dress more for cold, but removing clothes for heat only goes so far.

So Warns Jester.

We ain't scared Jester besides its a dry heat. :up: I could handle that a whole lot better than the Florida sauna. Ain't that right Giant Fan?
 
We ain't scared Jester besides its a dry heat. :up: I could handle that a whole lot better than the Florida sauna. Ain't that right Giant Fan?


ah , but did jester forget to mention to you that we don't actually have a baggage belt system ? no sir ... they put them bags on the conveyor at the ticket counter , then as soon as it goes behind the curtain we pick them up and load them ,sometimes 3 , sometimes 4 bags onto our backs and carry them down to the plane ..

Also we envy those new lav machines that you use ..... i guess we might be one of the few remaning stations that still uses the "bucket line "...
 
I will concede Roa the "good" I guess that leaves bad and ugly for you and O man :lol: :lol:

Talk about ugly. we'll give you that tag. :lol: so I guess I'll take the bad..


sidenote
Tim good to see you back.. I'll see you in jax.
 
?? for freedom
since your pretty close to RR .. Has he formed a Safety Committee out there

cause . PHX is definitely in dire need of Safety procedures being put in place both Corporate and the IAM's
 
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