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Mr. Nelson

I'd like to ask you and you only, exactly how much experience you have negotiating contracts? You seem to have all the answers about Randy. Your carrier came out of bankruptcy with a bankruptcy plan that is based on it being a Low Cost Carrier. Also, your carrier engages in cost neutral bargaining which makes choices rather difficult in representing members. Do you negotiate more pay at risk of more layoffs? That's the reality. Randy has done an excellent job of preserving our membership. Your company offered $19 an hour a few weeks ago and if you think it should be higher than that then how many jobs is that worth to you? Do you even know what cost neutral negotiations are? Where is this leverage you keep talking about that Labor has in this environment?

Also, do you have enough experience to determine your company's financial health? Your company made almost $100 million dollars less this year than the previous year. Oil is at all-time record highs and we lost the grievance. You would have been wise to ratify the previous contract. The industry will consolidate this year, what's your plan for that? Do you think we should bleed your company at the negotiations table so that it can not attract the necessary investors ? If so then your company will fail.

How much experienced does Delaney have? His own members in Chicago don't like him. What's going to be the difference in having an experienced Randy Canale and an inexperienced Rich Delaney? Randy's experience brings more leverage to the table than Delaney. Your slate produced lies and this caught us off guard but your slate is now losing steam as many of those locals who voted for your slate are now asking if they can take back their nominations. We have been in touch with the Locals who have not nominated yet and I'm confident that theyour slate is filled with members who all have personal District agendas even though they have not even served their Local membership. They will all nominate Randy. We have informed them of your personal agenda of hatred of the IAM and also have made them aware that Tell the truth Tim.
I thought the Grand Lodge was suppose to be Neutral? And I hope it isn't true that Roach scheduled a meeting in HNL on the members dime while he's at the Pro Bowl today.

At any rate, your opinion is 'unfounded' in the "Halls of Labor". Your opinion is the profanity of profanities and is no more than 'devilish'. But I will respond to your utter nonsense.

It seems you have an eye towards the company as opposed to the workers. In your 5 paragraphs you didn't mention one thing about the workers, just kept pointing to the company this and company that.

Item 1: You say, "His [Delaney's] own members in Chicago don't like him. What's going to be the difference in having an experienced Randy Canale and an inexperienced Rich Delaney? Randy's experience brings more leverage to the table than Delaney.
Randy's experience of what, screwing members with his cost neutral concillitory bargaining? Puh leesseee. Delaney was barred from the UAL negotiations because he didn't agree with Canale & his team going back to 1999. Delaney is the senior AGC on the system and has plenty of experience.
At any rate, cost neutral bargaining doesn't exist and should not be tolerated. Where was this "Cost neutral' bargaining when fleet service lost it's arse in Bankruptcy? Further, the most critical difference in good negotiators and bad ones is if they can solidify the workforce. Randy ends each of his letters by talking about solidarity but he has failed miserably in this aspect. Each time he negotiates, he writes a goofy love letter telling his members that things have changed and you shouldn't expect squat. He's not negotiating anything, all he does is try to soften up fleet service so big Al can bring in a nasty contract again.

As far as Delaney and Chicago members. I happen to work in Chicago and when I decided to help out on this ticket I went around all the ready rooms and asked how they felt about Rich Delaney and 100% of them said that he was the best AGC they have ever had. This was further demonstrated when those he represents supported him in dominating fashion last week when they nominated him by 80% of the vote. I counted the ballots and I can tell you if we had counted all the void ballots that he would have beat Canale by over 200 votes. I have no idea what your talking about saying that his own members don't like him, hell, they just nominated him in dominating fashion!! OTOH, Canale's needs policemen at his own local. US AIRWAYS doesn't like him and neither do the United workers. At ORD he got lambasted and decided not to even show up. In Denver he got a whopping 4 votes out of 150 and his sidekick Vic Payne got only 2 votes in DEN even though he had 4 AGC's on his own ballot. So 2 of Canale's own AGC's didn't even vote for Payne.

DistrictForce sez, "We have been in touch with the Locals who have not nominated yet and I'm confident that theyour slate is filled with members who all have personal District agendas even though they have not even served their Local membership
Everyone on our slate has served their membership very well. In fact, they've served their membership so well that they were even able to get their own membership to nominate our slate. OTOH, the District's slate sucks at representing members. This is evident as PF couldn't get a dozen votes out of 130 in PHL, Canale even less. RE was the least vote getter in ORD as her local endorsed US AIRWAYS fellas over her. In Denver, much of the same, same in JFK, same in PHX. Has any member of the Canale team come through for other slate members?

As far as your nonsense about upcoming Locals, we are shooting for 25-30 Locals and already picked up 10. We feel confident of this but your opinion is as valid as mine at this point. We'll see.

Item 2 "Cost Neutral" Bargaining. Doesn't exist. You think it does because management gives you the appearance that it exist. There is nothing cost-nuetral in this company except when the IAM's at the table. Ask Parker if his latest greatest contract was cost neutral? Rubbish! This company also tells you it is a Low Cost company so you govern your bargaining on the company terms. In reality, this company is said to be putting things together for possibly acquiring Continental or United airlines [AP Business WIRE, February, 9th...There is speculation that US Airways Group Inc. could bid for Continental or United, although it might need a partner who can bring cash to the table.

DistrictForce said, "Do you even know what cost neutral negotiations are? Where is this leverage you keep talking about that Labor has in this environment?
Leverage is high for Labor. As the news report indicates, US AIRWAYS needs financing to do some acquiring. They need a transition and that's why they are at the table AGAIN. If Labor didn't have any leverage then the company would wait till 2009 without question.

DistrictForce said, "how much experience you have negotiating contracts? do you have enough experience to determine your company's financial health?
Any negotiator is only as good as the solidarity behind him. I don't care if we had superman negotiating for us, if the members aren't behind him then he has no 'juice'. Presently, the members aren't behind Canale at all, but we have shoved Parker's boy to the sidelines and have taken over negotiations with our solidarity across the system.

As far as your comment about the company's health, the scoreboard sez they made 1/2 billion in each of the last two years. But let's focus on the members well being and stop worrying if rampers are going to bleed a mega billion corporation to death. Puh leeeaasseee!

Here's the NEW DIRECTION TEAM ON YOUTUBE. click here

email me here and get your station the NEW DIRECTION TEAM info that it needs.


Gotta go,
Regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
I'm just sayin that DEN won't have a reason to weep because they wouldn't be outsourced right? ...If there was a merger with United, then there would be plenty of mainline flights.?

If they were outsourced before any merger than UA could become the temporary vendor and work US/Mesa flts. You would be furloughed.

If a Class 2 station has less than 56
scheduled weekly departures, Fleet
Service work can be outsourced.
This could happen at TA signing..........Please change my mind...I think this is terrible language....

sonofsamsonite
 
As far as your nonsense about upcoming Locals, we are shooting for 25-30 Locals and already picked up 10. We feel confident of this but your opinion is as valid as mine at this point. We'll see.


You see Tim, that one rebuttal statement, by you, says it all. At least ur honest beause the nominations are not over! Yet, whoever the hell that other poster was is Over-opinionated and Underinformed. That just makes us more Solid.

sonofsamsonite
 
You see Tim, that one rebuttal statement, by you, says it all. At least ur honest beause the nominations are not over! Yet, whoever the hell that other poster was is Over-opinionated and Underinformed. That just makes us more Solid.

sonofsamsonite
Thanks for the kind words.

Check out this NEW DIRECTION message on "YouTube" Click Here

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
Thanks for the kind words.

Check out this NEW DIRECTION message on "YouTube" Click Here

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago


Tim,

That was very proffessional an well made it seems New Direction has quite a tireless and talented team. You don't see that coming from the incumbents there to busy in Hawaii having fun at the Pro Bowl!
 
Tim,

That was very proffessional an well made it seems New Direction has quite a tireless and talented team. You don't see that coming from the incumbents there to busy in Hawaii having fun at the Pro Bowl!

TYpical IAM fashion, spending dues money on personal pleasure. Tom " brick head" Brickner
you should be ashamed, but welcome to the board. The belly warmer must have you over the barrell
too, for you to come to the aid of cheap suites is only creating solidarity among the wokers. Keep
it up.

Favors at the convention only creates problems down the road. Should have locked the door.
(WORD GETS AROUND)

PS. let cheap suites know he is not welcome in CLT on thur, hmmmmmmmm think the local
agc will have securtiy there?
 
Tim Nelson! You are an "INSIGHTER! You are NOT completely correct on any one thing. You might be close, but you are not ever totally there. Phoenix voted for Chris and Ron. It was within One vote. And everyone jumped on it. And the conspiracies evolved!

I LOVE the fact that the current IAM union is trembling! And I hope for the rest of the new direction team they are watching.

But! You can't pay the bills on hopes and guesses. I hope to H###! the IAM gives us a chance to vote on another TA! That way we (and the union) will vote it down and the union will achieve what is necessary.

IAM gives East a chance to vote. THEN, West gets the TA East. (Money, Speaks!).

IAM union will AT LEAST give AWA fleet what we should have been given OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

Then, the New Direction Group can go on with SECTION SIX after 2009.
 
Tim Nelson! You are an "INSIGHTER! You are NOT completely correct on any one thing. You might be close, but you are not ever totally there. Phoenix voted for Chris and Ron. It was within One vote. And everyone jumped on it. And the conspiracies evolved!

I LOVE the fact that the current IAM union is trembling! And I hope for the rest of the new direction team they are watching.

But! You can't pay the bills on hopes and guesses. I hope to H###! the IAM gives us a chance to vote on another TA! That way we (and the union) will vote it down and the union will achieve what is necessary.

IAM gives East a chance to vote. THEN, West gets the TA East. (Money, Speaks!).

IAM union will AT LEAST give AWA fleet what we should have been given OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

Then, the New Direction Group can go on with SECTION SIX after 2009.
Lith, please quote me so I can go back and review what you're talking about. I would gladly make corrections if I posted something in error. Like I said, Parker boy's own RR did NOT come through for his team as Lenzi got his entire team members nominated. All RR did was get himself nominated and couldn't come through for his team and that looks pretty selfish to me.

Also, for your information Lith, the vast majority of east stations make about the same wage as the west BUT with significantly reduced benefits. So don't think the west stations have the worst of it because they don't.

New Direction Video on YouTube Click here

Email me to get the NEW DIRECTION info your station needs. email here

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
Lith..

I have no ill feelings towards ur wishes.......My station probably wouldn't benefit in the long run but if it helps the Total then I will have to cross my fingers and hope my station never has to deal with some of the current language. Lets wait and see !!

SOLIDARITY

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I watched the “No Direction†campaign propaganda power point presentation (a true film making genius…tell George Lucas to beware!) a couple of hours ago and just now stopped laughing!!! These candidates are experienced and respected? Are you kidding me…at least on the US Airways side? ALL of them (on the US Airways side) have little to NO experience handling ANYTHING that an AGC deals with “daily†or BASIC step II grievance hearings for that matter! God help you PHL, PIT and especially CLT agents should the “NO DIRECTION†slate become your representatives!

And as a “side noteâ€, a question to the “Masterminds(?)†behind the “No Direction†Un-leadership, you have an AGC, 2 year term nominee on your slate but you fail to show him, Bobby Worthman, on your laughable, middle school performance powerless point presentation, does he in fact support your slate? And if not, why are you supporting him? Could it be…just for votes?
 
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I watched the “No Direction†campaign propaganda power point presentation (a true film making genius…tell George Lucas to beware!) a couple of hours ago and just now stopped laughing!!! These candidates are experienced and respected? Are you kidding me…at least on the US Airways side? ALL of them (on the US Airways side) have little to NO experience handling ANYTHING that an AGC deals with “daily†or BASIC step II grievance hearings for that matter! God help you PHL, PIT and especially CLT agents should the “NO DIRECTION†slate become your representatives!

And as a “side noteâ€, a question to the “Masterminds(?)†behind the “No Direction†Un-leadership, you have an AGC, 2 year term nominee on your slate but you fail to show him, Bobby Worthman, on your laughable, middle school performance powerless point presentation, does he in fact support your slate? And if not, why are you supporting him? Could it be…just for votes?

Here we go again.........are your posts ???????'s or are they pertinent ? You can change the name but never the soul. Pathetic. Give the readers some reason to accept your views............................
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I watched the “No Direction†campaign propaganda power point presentation (a true film making genius…tell George Lucas to beware!) a couple of hours ago and just now stopped laughing!!! These candidates are experienced and respected? Are you kidding me…at least on the US Airways side? ALL of them (on the US Airways side) have little to NO experience handling ANYTHING that an AGC deals with “daily†or BASIC step II grievance hearings for that matter! God help you PHL, PIT and especially CLT agents should the “NO DIRECTION†slate become your representatives!

And as a “side noteâ€, a question to the “Masterminds(?)†behind the “No Direction†Un-leadership, you have an AGC, 2 year term nominee on your slate but you fail to show him, Bobby Worthman, on your laughable, middle school performance powerless point presentation, does he in fact support your slate? And if not, why are you supporting him? Could it be…just for votes?

Sir
I must disagree with you I watched the video and must say I was immpressed with what I saw. I see a group of leaders standing up against a group of tyrants who see there elected posts as a way to there means not to the members they represent. I say the time for a change is long over due and that is being heard loud and clear. Nominations are like grades and the Canale team has failed, The experience you seem to be talking about, you should be looking in the mirror ! Your team works for management at least the New Direction team will work for us!
 
141,
since you have gotten time off, you can read but not reply. I nominated the "NEW DIRECTION TEAM" at local 2444 in INT and work in RDU. I am sure that with those in attendance, KA, JR, and a few other AGC's, they all can tell you who I am. With the help of 3 other US Fleet Service members and 1 UA Fleet service member we got the nomination for "THE NEW DIRECTION TEAM" out of 2444. If Canoli was such a stand-up guy, then why did he threaten the members in LAS? If he was such a stand-up guy, then he would have continued section 6 negotiations for the west along with transition negotiations for both. Instead he bowed down to dougweiser. For that he has made East and West suffer for a long time. I am not scared of anybody on this board, and I am proud of the fact that we nominated and voted the way we did! OTOH I highly doubt you will say where you are from though. Scared of people finding out that you kiss dougweisers ring too. But IMO canoli could negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. But we will see. I hope you are right, but I doubt it. We will see though. You are right on one thing. There is no judge to run to. But AH and dougweiser will tell canoli what we get. Bottom line, and he will graciously accept it and tell us that it was the best he could do. Can he even negotiate without opening the concession stand?


Hey Irish you sound particularly biased. Are you by chance running on the slate with Rich Delaney? The only reason I ask is because 141voters post was one of the most on honest I have read on this site. Why was 141 deleted from the message board? I saw the original post and 141 straighten out rat tales who may have mistakenly made fun of the american flag. I understand that it is a US air logo but 141 pic had a US flag on his post with rat tales seeming un american. Just wondering?
 
Hey Irish you sound particularly biased. Are you by chance running on the slate with Rich Delaney? The only reason I ask is because 141voters post was one of the most on honest I have read on this site. Why was 141 deleted from the message board? I saw the original post and 141 straighten out rat tales who may have mistakenly made fun of the american flag. I understand that it is a US air logo but 141 pic had a US flag on his post with rat tales seeming un american. Just wondering?
No I am not running on the slate. You should know you were there weren't you. And 141 got sent away for posting a picture on bin-laden as a chimp. The only thing I am biased against is canoli staying in office! And of course you would think that way about 141's post, you have canoli's best interest in mind, not the membership's. Why did canoli threaten LAS? Is he scared that he is going to lose! Because he has done soooooooooooooo much for the membership at US/HP thus far. How many time's will he "open the concession stand" when it was supposedly closed? I am fed up with his BS and idle threats and scare tactics. He really should be ashamed of himself. Best of luck in the June election though.
 
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