IAM

[lost luggage]

RESULTS FROM PBI/FLL/MIA - NEW DIRECTION TEAM WINS 14 TO 10 IN LOW TURNOUT SHOWDOWN

ALL 14 USAIRWAYS MEMBERS VOTED FOR NEW DIRECTION , WHILE THE 10 UNITED MEMBERS VOTED THE SAME OLD- SAME OLD.

 

[perserverance]

''After two weeks of voting, 64% of the membership has chosen to present our Change of Control grievance to a neutral arbitrator instead of accepting the tentative agreement. Your negotiating committee thanks the membership for their active participation throughout the protracted negotiation and ratification process.'' letter put out by the IAM in Sep.



We did not choose to go forth with the CoC. We voted down what we thought was a sub par
TA. We have said from the get go, that the CoC was a grievance and every union member upon
filing a grievance deserves to have that grievance heard, this is called ''due process'' . Canale
has used this type of wording all along and it should have been addressed before. For him to
suggest that we, as a group, were voting on a TA or CoC is reflective of his lack of accountability
and leadership. The CoC should have never been part of the TA, it was a grievance. The TA offered
the elimination of FT/PT ratio, outsourcing, bad sick and benifit package, along with an extension
to the year 2012....get over it and start moving forward. This is Feb. 2008 not Sep. 2007...history...

Thanks, to the Florida cities for thier nominations and good luck to CLT Thursday.....

Thanks

 

[Tim Nelson]

District ELection Update: SAT

San Antonio Goes To NEW DIRECTION TEAM

SAT said no to the lies and deceit spread by Boss Canale and went to the NEW DIRECTION TEAM.

The NEW DIRECTION TEAM is now picking up more steam than ever and is dominating this campaign with close to 16,000 out of 25,000 members represented for the NEW DIRECTION TEAM.

Our goal is 20,000 out of 25,000 and to do this we need about another dozen cities to secure 80% of the membership for our team. The bigger the vote we get, the bigger the voice the company/union will hear. No more business as usual.

regards,

Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[Hey.. Chill Out]

Lovely! I feel good about this! You have to be tough about negotiating!!!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Mr. Nelson,
It seems an unfair advantage that the New Direction Team have to work their regular jobs and still try to cover the small stations at their own expense. At the same time the district group can buzz all over the system in record form on our dime; food, lodging, rental car, even Pro Bowl Games. How can the International allow for abuse of collected dues money towards their campaign? Over the term of Canale's career did he work language into the bylaws that allow for this bias? Do you have insight to this?

While I don't think Boss Canale has ever had a problem raising dues and his salary, I don't think he has much of a conscience towards pissing away union dues.
The problem with Parker's boy is that he is a spoiled brat and if he doesn't get his way he steps all over things. We had to settle him down a few years back in a District officer campaign and he got a good taste of the DOL and DOJ. We are documenting all the potential violations along the way if needed. The whole Pro Bowl thing helped us win HNL as they realized just how much disregard these guys have. We are looking forward to getting Canale and throwing him out of office in June. He should have retired and got his 'IAM Watch', but now he will not only experience 'great pain' but also take down his whole ticket.

The "Shock and awe" and scorched earth campaign of the NEW DIRECTION is needed since this District is unbelievable corrupt and company bought. The altar boys and girls will have to order work clothes again and join the masses on the ramp and ticket counters again.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[Black Magic]

I feel its in LCC best interest to offer a decent contract ie not "cost nuetral"...If they are going to be apart in this merger game they know there will be big $$$ in the future and can afford to offer fleet service something respectable.

It really comes down to if LCC is planning on merging or not. This next TA will say it in a way. If it is above "cost nuetral" I'm willing to assume that they want part in a merger. If not I think they will choose the stance as a stand alone carrier and will just continue with a bankruptcy contract. They are not "nice" people and will pay the absolute least amount as possible so if they do spring a little extra $$$ they have future plans in store.

I mean why even waist time with another TA? If it is similiar or less than the last TA the east hubs will vote it down again big time!

 

[orioleman]

BF,
"Thanks for all of that Chilly. I'm particularly interested in educating PHX. I'm
not there so its easy to say. How bout some kind of campain of putting out
new flyers everyday, like about 500 or so. Ron and the company will take
them down but the next day there thay are again. Each day a different but
very simple large print message could be passed out and posted. Then
after about two weeks of this and the messages get a little more pithey.
Each one could have a logo for the new direction team.

Thanks for your support. BF"

Once again . I must say this .. BF You have my vote for president......

you insight is very good.

 

[b737200]

Mr. Nelson
In case you forgot, there was a merger. Your company wanted transition agreements in place and worked with us enough to come to an agreement. Our members from the west voted to pass the last transition agreement and would have received a 22% pay increase. You voted for the change of control grievance and lost. Now we have mergers on the horizon and you are attempting to use that as leverage. How many jobs do you plan to lose? You don't know the first thing about negotiating, it's give and take.

Your company will not be a participant in mergers if it can not come to a transition agreement with its workforce and if you want to be responsible for putting your company in an uncompetitive disadvantage then you can expect layoffs and possibly bankruptcy again.

Mergers happen because of the billions of dollars that investors bring. Those billions of dollars bring jobs and security for our members.

Come on "brickhead",
Your job is to bargain for the people who pay your salaries, not to worry about the company. It's evident
The IAM is a low rent organization only concerned about collecting dues and a few inner circle
members having orgies and steak dinners at the conventions.
TB, any respect I had for you in the past is gone, IMO you probably squat to pizz.

Do your job or quit. Better yet, wonder if we could get the Int'l prez to fire you.
The james bond girls have more balls than you. The next T/A will be voted down unless remodified
with a plus forward out come....cost neutral dosn't exist on this property, we are not in bk.

DISTRICT 141 NOMINATIONS.............................HISTORY IN THE MAKING

PS. in two years we will clean the rest of the house, are you listening out there?

 

[The Bagfather]

Holding Pattern: If the LLC does not feel any pressure to negotiate a fair
contract they won't. I'm not the expert on what motives they have. I would
not assume anything, The only thing I assume is what I'm willing
to accept.

And that TA was not close. You talk about that TA as if it was something
to even be considered. A little of this a little of that. As far as I'm concerned
the fact that Canale supported that TA is what hopefully will finish him.

I don't care anything about the experience or education of these guys.
When they talk about negotiating a TA they sound almost identical to the
company. "Hard times ahead".

There's nothing that can explain Canale's behavior. From the begining he
took a modest stance. He provided no leadership whatsoever. He should
have been telling his boy Ron Roth to get together a serious plan on how
to educate the PHX ramp. But he would have been better off to bypass
RR and take advantage of some of the people in PHX with vision.

As far as venting our anger at the company thats a completly pitiful and useless
idea. Educate the ramp, Get them unified and when the company comes
around tell them what you want. If they don't give it to you walk.

It's very doubtful that Canale can pull off a new TA that's real. But If
he does I'll be the first to congratulate him as I walk to the polls to
vote him and his whole slate back to the ramp.

As mike33 told me earlier we have been put in a position of having to
fight both our own union an the company. I have never been under
the delusion that the company was on our side in terms of a fair
contract. And every day that goes by and the more I hear, the more
I see that this current band of "hard working,. experinced, educated"
band of visionless cronies is an enemy of FS.

Thanks BF

 

[The Bagfather]

Perv: Your insight here is remarkable. Whenever Canale puts something on
paper it's always spun in some convaluted way. The "masses" will prevail.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The 'masses' are lemmings.

Unless they have vision.

All I see are lemmings.

 

[NevadaHP]

Not saying anything negative about John or Chris, I have nothing against them, just saying they were not actively involved in this. They were there because Gary brought the E-board, at the last minute in to sit in on negotiations, not to negotiate. You can check and you'll see they were not involved prior to this. Just want everyone to understand, they were not the big players some may think.

Just to bring more FACTS to the table, all items brought up in negotiations went before the E-board. John, Chris and Deanna were brought in to see what was happening and to spread the word to the membership. ALL items discussed in negotiations were passed before the E-board. Nielsen DID bring the idea of bringing to the company a pay increase only from the ATSB loan AWA got after 9/11 and was to create a transition agreement. Hemmingway immediately said "this is not cost neutral." ALL the company wanted to give the west was simply cost neutral to what they already had. Gary Schultz of TWU quickly responded it is to the EAST contract like previously stated from Shirley Kauffman. Hemmingway wanted no part of this, so TWU quickly walked out and faxed info to the NMB asking for mediation. the NMB told the TWU that they would wait until a single union was on property. Hemmingway got a call from the NMB about the mediation and amazingly scheduled a luncheon between Schultz and Rezler. Inside info from the company due to TWU having inside INFO, after TWU walked out, several memebers of the companies negotiating team conceded to Hemminway that Shirley Kauffman told TWU that any contract would have to be cost neutral to the EAST contract. On another note Lenzi and Nielsen also have arbitration experience. Both have been trained through the National Labor College. Nielsen has been involved in 3 arbitrations. One each with AA, TWU, and IAM.

 

[Theo Corner]

These men have put in a lot of time and effort for you, away from their families only to get sh** on by those of you who think you know better, or those of you with your own agenda. You guys who are promoting the "New Direction" team are the same ones who have been trying to get rid of IAM. The same ones who gave false information about the TA. The same ones who are promoting a bunch of people who have very little experience and education. I know a lot of the guys on the "New Directions" team. They are okay people to hang out with at the conventions, but, as a whole, they LACK THE EXPERIENCE AND THE EDUCATION we need to take us forward, with the exception of a couple (2), who I will most definitely vote for. Jester is right to question the training, work experience, background and education. PF has a Masters degree in Labor for starters! You can not find someone who can do a better job than him. Does anyone on the "New Direction" slate have this? Just what does the "New Direction" team have in the way of education and experience? The other men, at minimum have had training at Placid Harbor, which is something all of you need to try and do, ask your local to send you.
I do not endorse all the guys on the Districts slate, I don't follow blindly. I do endorse most however. We need the knowledge and the experience these guys have, to take us forward. It would be self defeating to get rid of all of them. To do so would be erasing history and then repeating it, taking us backwards instead of moving us forward.
I do not agree with all that's gone on as far as appointments go, but let's look at changing some of the by-laws. Let's have some positive action instead of just complaining. If you were in Canale's position and had to make an appointment according to the by-laws, how would you do this? Most likely it would be to someone you know. Walk a mile in someone's shoes before you pass judgment. Canale is the right man to lead us! Maybe Rich will be someday, but at this time...he's just not ready...IMO. I say find out who's who, don't listen to the same few people on here bickering. Go get some real valid information. Then make a decision based on facts and qualifications.

When I read that I cannot find anyone doing a better job than PF I sprayed coffee all over my screen. What a joke, he has done nothing more than hold the door of the "Concession Stand" open for the company.

A little history for those that were not around back then... Back in the mid 90's the IAM finally got a contract preposal. The first contract vote for Fleet Service EVER in PHL was a wild scene. It included an open casket at the door to throw contract books into. The people from the IAM there to "inform" the people what the contract mean were lucky to get out of there alive. They had to grab a "Good Union Guy" Bill Chandlee out of the crowd to calm them down enough to let the IAM get out. How do I know this? The vote was taped. I saw the video tape. It was the best thing I had ever seen. Real unionism! Solidarity! PHL stood tall and the vote was around 773 No- 4 Yes. Are these numbers exact? No, but close enough. I was so proud of Fleet Service!

Two or three weeks later I attended a meeting in a PHL bar in which PF tried to hold court like he was "The Godfather". He said that he agreed with us that the IAM was out of control and that we need to change them, but to change them from the inside. Chandlee had just been made a negotiator and was going to be a savior , my word not theirs. Many years and crap contracts later nothing at the District has changed except that eventually PF was made an AGC and has been included into the fold of the IAM. Is he there to fight to change the District to be a better group? No, he is there to feed at the trough. Now that he is on the inside, the District is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Is this a slam against the entire PHL station? No, I would never implicate PHL. They are some of the most loyal Union men and women I have ever seen. I would be honored to stand beside them and fight the Company or the current District group.

As for the "lack of education" on the New Direction team, I am sure they will be allowed to go to the WWW Center to brush up on whatever skills they lack. Too bad Canale's group only go places to PARTY, not to learn.

😛h34r:

 

[Tim Nelson]

When I read that I cannot find anyone doing a better job than PF I sprayed coffee all over my screen. What a joke, he has done nothing more than hold the door of the "Concession Stand" open for the company.

A little history for those that were not around back then... Back in the mid 90's the IAM finally got a contract preposal. The first contract vote for Fleet Service EVER in PHL was a wild scene. It included an open casket at the door to throw contract books into. The people from the IAM there to "inform" the people what the contract mean were lucky to get out of there alive. They had to grab a "Good Union Guy" Bill Chandlee out of the crowd to calm them down enough to let the IAM get out. How do I know this? The vote was taped. I saw the video tape. It was the best thing I had ever seen. Real unionism! Solidarity! PHL stood tall and the vote was around 773 No- 4 Yes. Are these numbers exact? No, but close enough. I was so proud of Fleet Service!

Two or three weeks later I attended a meeting in a PHL bar in which PF tried to hold court like he was "The Godfather". He said that he agreed with us that the IAM was out of control and that we need to change them, but to change them from the inside. Chandlee had just been made a negotiator and was going to be a savior , my word not theirs. Many years and crap contracts later nothing at the District has changed except that eventually PF was made an AGC and has been included into the fold of the IAM. Is he there to fight to change the District to be a better group? No, he is there to feed at the trough. Now that he is on the inside, the District is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Is this a slam against the entire PHL station? No, I would never implicate PHL. They are some of the most loyal Union men and women I have ever seen. I would be honored to stand beside them and fight the Company or the current District group.

As for the "lack of education" on the New Direction team, I am sure they will be allowed to go to the WWW Center to brush up on whatever skills they lack. Too bad Canale's group only go places to PARTY, not to learn.

😛h34r:

Just to respond more to the other poster. Exactly where did PF get his masters in Labor? And what does that mean? I wouldn't be surprised if he got a Master's that really was just a brainwashing from the IAM or some Labor School that is turning out union bosses who are taught the techniques of management and how to organize new members and preserve the Labor organization....NOT HOW TO SERVE. I have a master's research education from a top notch institution, but what does an education mean to the masses other than the fact that I have been educated enough to be able to read implicit and explicit language and filter out assumptions. Being a union leader is about putting the members first and serving them. Unfortunately, once guys get educated they think they are smarter than the hard working blue collar crowd. I've found that the more education...the more ears are closed, and the more they think they know what's best for us stupid rampers. But just because we work the ramp doesn't make us stupid.
You can stick all the IAM laptop boys up Hemenway's butt, they are useless to the masses. The trick to be learned for those who are educated are not to get puffed up and think you're smarter than the masses because you aren't. Solidarity is the education that opens company eyes. Boss Canale, PF, etc., want to talk down to the masses and talk some goofy talk about stock and how the company only made $427 million this year. Kiss off PF!
PF's character is witnessed by the last contract he signed and is further witnessed how he couldn't get 12 votes in his own station as the PHL crowd nominated United guys over him. We are going to enjoy coming for PF this June, maybe then he will realize his smarts were never flavored with wisdom. Also DZ is somewhat educated but he used his education to leave the masses and thinks he's smarter than everyone now. He used to be a good man, now he's an owned man who babbles goofiness in breakrooms. he told our fellas that if they voted down the contract in September that the company is going to say 'screw you until 2009'. I told them the company would be back....because it has to come back. And it is back.
He can stick his laptop up Boss Canale's arse.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[diogenes]

PF aidded and abetted the PHL crowd selling 22 senior stations down the river, and he supported the 60 day rule.

He was so loathed the IAM sent out Macarone with the furlough packets instead of PF (in PF's own stations).

PF knew better than to show his face.