Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[nycbusdriver]

 
Stay there. Too may Yankees here already.
 
I'll sit here by the pool while you stand on a slushy street corner and wait on your bus----driver.

 
Still off topic.  Don't get too near that pool unless someone is there to fish you out.

 

[snapthis]

 
Still off topic.  Don't get too near that pool unless someone is there to fish you out.

You going sick your boyfriends from the dock on me?

 

[Pi brat]

 
Hey M&M,
 
I picture you the guy wearing your uniform out to dinner or at the movies to impress yourself.
 
Captain
 
Your attitude reminds me the story of this guy, a story I read recently on the message boards:
 
My daughter worked over the summer as a bartender on the Island Ferry which shuttles between Galilee, RI, Newport, RI and Block Island, RI. Over the Labor Day weekend on the way to "the block" a man in his early 60's with dyed blond hair orders a drink at her bar..... wearing a US Airways captain's uniform, no ID, no hat, but with the jacket on a hot day. She asks the man what airline would allow him to drink in uniform and he told her he worked for American Airlines and it was not a problem as long as he was off duty. She informed him that his wings were clearly the US Airways logo and got a muddled response about the merger with American. My smartass daughter then filled him in on the DOJ lawsuit and the fact that there wasn't yet a merger. When he asked what made a "server girl" so damned smart she told him about her dad and said now she knows why I am embarrassed to wear the US Airways uniform.
 

BS

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
 
No question that I agree with your sentiment entirely.  But that does not mean that "company procedure" always needs to trump judgement.  It does not, and the legal basis for that assertion is quite clear.
 
Case in point: June 12, 1972.  American Airlines Flight 96, ORD-LAX.  A DC-10.  We all know the story, and the "eternity" that ensued.  In analyzing the crash, the invesitgaots determined that the Captain followed procedure extremely well.  Unfortunately, hanging on to the prescribed airspeed after the engine loss did not allow him to maintain control.  In simulator re-enactments, the "sloppy" pilots who let the airspeed increase flew out of the event and landed successfully.
 
Sure, cases like this are (thankfully) rare exceptions to the rule, and procedure will almost always be the best course of action.  But this profession can sometimes benefit from experience and judgement of the pilots who are actually flying the airplanes, rather than the engineers who are designing them and the procedures.
 
Someone HAS to be in charge.  Someone's judgement MUST prevail over all others.  The law makes that determination, and makes it very clearly.

AMEN!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I know some here are arguing for the sake of arguing. I understand given the climate. But there should be no disagreement among us on this issue.

Just put yourself in the right seat. It's a dark night in IMC conditions and you are approaching minimums when you realize, for whatever reason, that the gear is still up. You shout 'go around' and the captain replies, 'it's okay, runway in sight'.

Your move.

'84

You can scenario it to death, have you ever had that happen? Bottom line the F/o is the F/O not in charge! If you ever got to the no gear point a lot of other barriers were broken! 121.535 says it all, and NYC said it best!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
Hey M&M,
 
I picture you the guy wearing your uniform out to dinner or at the movies to impress yourself.
 
Captain
 
Your attitude reminds me the story of this guy, a story I read recently on the message boards:
 
My daughter worked over the summer as a bartender on the Island Ferry which shuttles between Galilee, RI, Newport, RI and Block Island, RI. Over the Labor Day weekend on the way to "the block" a man in his early 60's with dyed blond hair orders a drink at her bar..... wearing a US Airways captain's uniform, no ID, no hat, but with the jacket on a hot day. She asks the man what airline would allow him to drink in uniform and he told her he worked for American Airlines and it was not a problem as long as he was off duty. She informed him that his wings were clearly the US Airways logo and got a muddled response about the merger with American. My smartass daughter then filled him in on the DOJ lawsuit and the fact that there wasn't yet a merger. When he asked what made a "server girl" so damned smart she told him about her dad and said now she knows why I am embarrassed to wear the US Airways uniform.
Don't believe everything you read or hear, remember a large part of your world is made up of fiction!

 

[Claxon]

I question your judgement as a Usapian and as an admitted liberal.
 
I paid about $2 for a dozen eggs. How much did you pay?
 
What does LOA 93 buy in NYC when it comes to housing?
 
A Habitrail?

What does 650k buy you on 6-6-06 on W. Ashurst in PHX?
The same as today, for 325k.
At least the NYC pad appreciated. You? You chucked 300 k in the toilet. I wouldn't even begin to talk LOA 93 after that Move.

 

[traderjake]

What does 650k buy you on 6-6-06 on W. Ashurst in PHX?

.

 
 
You are one creepy little stalker.

 

[snapthis]

BS

 
Whatever Pi. I made the whole thing up, just like the West comments below.
Remind West pilots of your definition integrity while defending a union bent on stealing jobs West pilots had prior to the acquisition in 2005.
 
If any of us have any expectation that group will EVER act with a shred of decency or common sense, then it is US that are insane - not them.
 
They were, are and forever will be scum.
 
Please tell me again why we should stay current/migs with this POS wanna be union???????????????

 
They are stealing from us and this is the all we've got
 
I think Judge Silver has had enough of uSCABa and their pack of lies.
 
uSCABa = scabs= to the bitter end.
 
Man, I hate those futhermuckers. Actually, hate is not strong enough a word.
 



...unofficial USAPA "Think Tank" which means, how to fuk America West pilots MORE...!
 
What a corrupt bunch of individuals.



 
Was donating $100/mo then switched to the "Captain Push".
Go AOL!
From the sidelines,
Furloughed...
 
 can you say.... fcuking criminals!!!
So Bradford evaded testifying again? What a spineless coward.
 
 
the bassturds should be castrated
 
its not evident to you ,the skull-duggery,the liars,and cheats that they are,and cowards(USCABA)......

 
Bradford doesn't show and Hummel tries to use a doctors note for the samething. Stand up leadership..........not!
 
Bradford no showed? Hummel no talked? Thought so. Poosies.
 
Spineless pond scum - both of them.


 

 

[Claxon]

Better to be on a bread line in Manhattan than King of the Phoenix Sandbox.
 
Still can't stay on topic, huh?  Mental lightweight.  I doubt you can pass the Private Pilot written.

Notice this tool makes up the stupid stories of east pilots drinking when the AWA pilots showed in MIA and made real news.

 

[Claxon]

You are one creepy little stalker.

Daddy got you your job. You throw your co workers under the bus and defend those who do.
That, is creepy.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
 
Whatever Pi. I made the whole thing up, just like the West comments below.
Remind West pilots of your definition integrity while defending a union bent on stealing jobs West pilots had prior to the acquisition in 2005.
 
If any of us have any expectation that group will EVER act with a shred of decency or common sense, then it is US that are insane - not them.
 
They were, are and forever will be scum.
 
Please tell me again why we should stay current/migs with this POS wanna be union???????????????

 
They are stealing from us and this is the all we've got
 
I think Judge Silver has had enough of uSCABa and their pack of lies.
 
uSCABa = scabs= to the bitter end.
 
Man, I hate those futhermuckers. Actually, hate is not strong enough a word.
 



...unofficial USAPA "Think Tank" which means, how to fuk America West pilots MORE...!
 
What a corrupt bunch of individuals.

 
Was donating $100/mo then switched to the "Captain Push".
Go AOL!
From the sidelines,
Furloughed...
 
 can you say.... fcuking criminals!!!
So Bradford evaded testifying again? What a spineless coward.
 
 
the bassturds should be castrated
 
its not evident to you ,the skull-duggery,the liars,and cheats that they are,and cowards(USCABA)......

 
Bradford doesn't show and Hummel tries to use a doctors note for the samething. Stand up leadership..........not!
 
Bradford no showed? Hummel no talked? Thought so. Poosies.
 
Spineless pond scum - both of them.


 

 


Nobody wants your PHX job, BTW don't think there will be a job for anyone in PHX unless INDIGO offers you one!

 

[Piedmont1984]

You can scenario it to death, have you ever had that happen? Bottom line the F/o is the F/O not in charge! If you ever got to the no gear point a lot of other barriers were broken! 121.535 says it all, and NYC said it best!

Let me put it this way. If I am your F/O in the above scenario, I will break your f&*king wrists in order to go-around. Then, in the morning, you, the FAA and the company can give me all the hell you want.

'84

 

[snapthis]

Hey M&M. How about correcting your post,#351. Do you know how to use the quote feature?
 
I guess you don't make mistakes, do you, Captain wonderful.

 

[snapthis]

Nobody wants your PHX job, BTW don't think there will be a job for anyone in PHX unless INDIGO offers you one!

 
Nobody wants my Phoenix job? Your union was formed to take our jobs.