Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

As far as Karma goes, what do you think those folks in the Philippines and IL did to deserve what happened to them?

 
I fear that's far too large a concept (and certainly too far outside the limits of narcicisstic self-obsession) for most "spartans" to have any hope of processing Pi.

 

[nevergiveup]

REPLY BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF
INTERVENOR US AIRWAYS, INC.’S
MOTION FOR SUMMARY
JUDGMENT - CLAIM REGARDING
MCCASKILL-BOND STATUTE
 
 
"Under these circumstances, and especially given that the West Pilots and East
Pilots continue to work under two separate seniority lists and thus have distinct seniority
interests at stake in the upcoming integration of US Airways and American pilots, a
McCaskill-Bond process that does not afford the West Pilots an opportunity to present
their arguments in favor of the Nicolau Award would not be fair and equitable."
 
CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, Intervenor US Airways respectfully requests that the
Court grant its Motion For Summary Judgment.
Dated: November 18, 2013.
 
 

Doc 277 Airways' Reply.pdf‎

Perhaps they should have gone for the fence and kept ALPA, but they chose not to. Next.

 

[snapthis]

Be fair here! I also hand you an your "army" of supposed "spartans" an open invitation to a recreational flying wager. All "you'se" have seemingly ever got to offer's the "Red Solo Cup" in return. 😉
 
Nyaah, Nyaah!...I "win". 🙂

You win? That's not fair.

Since I never owned a Play Station, I might accept an Asteroids challenge brought to you by that ancient company called Atari. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

You win? That's not fair.

Since I never owned a Play Station, I might accept an Asteroids challenge brought to you by that ancient company called Atari. 🙂

 
How 'bout something actually involving real airplanes and reasonable stakes?...I know, I know; Gasp/choke/nothing but more internet-tough-guy-"spartan"- BS in response...? 🙂
 
Save your video games for your fellow "soldiers" in your cute little "army", if they're not to busy with the "war" at the moment. PM if interested.

 

[snapthis]

REPLY BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF
INTERVENOR US AIRWAYS, INC.S
MOTION FOR SUMMARY
JUDGMENT - CLAIM REGARDING
MCCASKILL-BOND STATUTE
 
 
"Under these circumstances, and especially given that the West Pilots and East
Pilots continue to work under two separate seniority lists and thus have distinct seniority
interests at stake in the upcoming integration of US Airways and American pilots, a
McCaskill-Bond process that does not afford the West Pilots an opportunity to present
their arguments in favor of the Nicolau Award would not be fair and equitable."
 
CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, Intervenor US Airways respectfully requests that the
Court grant its Motion For Summary Judgment.
Dated: November 18, 2013.
 
 

Doc 277 Airways' Reply.pdf‎

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_277_Airways_Reply_to%20Airways_Motion_for_SJ.pdf

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_278_SOF_with_respect_to_Airways_Mot_for_SJ.pdf

 

[Pi brat]

 
I fear that's far too large a concept (and certainly too far outside the limits of narcicisstic self-obsession) for most "spartans" to have any hope of processing Pi.

Well, just thought I'd give him something else to chew on. ;-)

 

[EastUS1]

Well, just thought I'd give him something else to chew on. ;-)

 
You're asking of them to consider a larger world beyond their own petty nonsense....You'll just cause them to choke in the attempt. 😉

 

[Phoenix]

REPLY BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF
INTERVENOR US AIRWAYS, INC.’S
MOTION FOR SUMMARY
JUDGMENT - CLAIM REGARDING
MCCASKILL-BOND STATUTE
 
 
"Under these circumstances, and especially given that the West Pilots and East
Pilots continue to work under two separate seniority lists and thus have distinct seniority
interests at stake in the upcoming integration of US Airways and American pilots, a
McCaskill-Bond process that does not afford the West Pilots an opportunity to present
their arguments in favor of the Nicolau Award would not be fair and equitable."
 
CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, Intervenor US Airways respectfully requests that the
Court grant its Motion For Summary Judgment.
Dated: November 18, 2013.
 
 

Doc 277 Airways' Reply.pdf‎

Now the company is submitting a motion to get a Declaratory Judgement that is completely unrelated to the DRF trial that occurred.   Tricky.  Its funny how neutral they are.  They don't care if USAPA is guilty of a DFR, they just want the West to have an equal seat at the table.  
 
Its comical that DUI and his lawyers are adamant that they have no opinion on whether or not USAPA is guilty of DFR, which is the purpose of the trial.   Then without regard to a justification for finding a remedy for the West in their trial, the company sneaks in a motion for the judge to modify a negotiated contract, requesting that the judge grant the company request for something they didn't even bother to negotiate for themselves.  That you would applaud them is no surprise.  
 
We voted. Its time to move on.  Everyone should honor our commitments. 

 

[traderjake]

Everyone should honor our commitments. 

 
Don't worry, the odds are we will before this is over. 😀  

 

[Phoenix]

 
Don't worry, the odds are we will before this is over. 😀  

Agreed! 😀

 

[Phoenix]

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_277_Airways_Reply_to%20Airways_Motion_for_SJ.pdf

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_278_SOF_with_respect_to_Airways_Mot_for_SJ.pdf

 
 
The company has done nothing more than make an accusation that USAPA has not proven its future innocence.  This is a DFR trial and ostensibly justice requires the plaintiff to prove the defendant is guilty in order to obtain relief.   The company completely ignores what kind of trial is before Judge Silver, and asks Judge Silver to implicitly assume USAPA will be guilty in the future on a totally unrelated accusation, and based on this presumed future guilt they ask Silver to freely grant an alteration to a negotiated contract that isn't even in effect yet.  They want something from Silver that they didn't even bother to negotiate with us, and surely the vote would have been different had they stipulated to what they want Silver to give them for free.  
 
 

Nowhere....does USAPA explain how a process that excludes separate representation for the West Pilots could resolve the
seniority dispute that has divided the US Airways pilots for so long.
 

 
​The company then goes on to advocate that the West should not only have the authority to sit at the table going forward, but that they should be able to advance a document that the company themselves contractually demanded would be a nullity with all prior agreements and status quo, upon the effective date of the MOU.  
 

 
a McCaskill-Bond process that does not afford the West Pilots an opportunity to present
their arguments in favor of the Nicolau Award would not be fair and equitable.
 

 

[Claxon]

Robert A. Siegel, attorney for USAirways, is a medicine man and files briefs with forked tongue.  At least he will try harder than andy 28jjjjjj jacobs at the furture 9th Circuit a few years from now, but he will get his pants handed back to him.
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_265_Airways_response.pdf
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_277_Airways_Reply_to%20Airways_Motion_for_SJ.pdf

 

[Claxon]

LOL!!! I love it. The "West" behavior...You fking scabs started a war you pathetic cowards can't handle. The ball is being stripped from your hands and there isn't a single thing you can do to stop it. We didn't start this war but we sure as schit are going to finish it and it will be my pleasure to shove your face in this pile of schit YOU SCABS CREATED for the rest of my career.

You signed up for the crap career the second you hitched to Franke. You helped bring the rest of the industry down with your crap pay, benefits and work rules. You are lucky you hooked into the East operation, because without them NOBODY had an interest in your pathetic route structure. They still don't. You are just a pathetic remora tailing and stealing the moneymaking east operation.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
It's fun watching Joe S come unglued...
How's that "Merger is dead" prediction working out for ya?  LOL

 
My guess is that it's working about as well as your several countdown clocks.

 

[Beancounter]

Why are you east guys in such an uproar about the west pilots getting a seat at the table? Yous all wanted a do over didn't ya?

You didn't really think that MB which stipulates a fair and equitable integration would allow a union controlled by the east to determine a list combining east/west did you?

I don't think the problem here is the definition of, "binding arbitration," the problem is comprehending, "fair and equitable." I'm not even going to start into, "career expectations." 🙂

Bean