Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

Sure, lets talk about arbitration.....
 
 


 
MOU Paragraph 10i......."Nothing in this Paragraph 10 shall modify the decision of the arbitration panel in Letter of Agreement 12-05 of the 2012 CBA."
 
Please explain why the company included the arbitration of LOA 12-05 of the 2012 CBA (protecting the TWA) but did not include any language of the arbitration of the 2005 TA to protect the West pilots??  
 
Or better yet, please explain why Leonidas LLC recommended a vote to ratify a provision for the arbitration of LOA 12-05 for TWA but decided it was unimportant to demand a provision for your beloved Nic arbitration of the 2005 TA to protect the West pilots?  
 
Your beloved Leonidas, LLC didn't talk straight to you and didn't protect your interest as much as they protected TWA pilots.  That was not cool.  :huh:

Shack. Leonidas vaporized by their own e mails. Done Richard Nixon proud they did.

 

[Claxon]

My point was the east has never needed the west to get a contract, the east voluntarily has stayed on LOA93.  You have always had the numerical advantage to get a new contract yet you never did.
 
Why?
 
Just askin'.

You would have scabbed.

 

[Res Judicata]

4. It is the intent of the Parties that, as of the Effective Date, the terms and conditions of employment
for pilots employed by New American Airlines and US Airways will be set by the MTA ...
... it shall fully displace and render a nullity any prior [/size]collective bargaining agreements applicable [/size]
to US Airways pilots and any status quo arising [/size]thereunder.[/size]

So Silver dismissed based on your fantasy that "nullity" equates to DOH? No. In FACT, she did the opposite. Everything you say is rendered baseless, pointless wishful thinking. If your understanding of the legal landscape were even remotely accurate, the West wouldn't have a case. The reality is 4 Federal judges disagree with you. The other 2 simply said, "not yet". Where you get this brazen idea that a simple line pilot at a failed,twice BK Schitt airline is more legally informed that 6 federal Judges is beyond me. You don't know ANYTHING. Your selfish scab opinon is as worthless as your pre-merger "career".

Do yourself a favor, and STFU about subject matter you are so woefully Iil-prepared to discuss.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
 
4. It is the intent of the Parties that, as of the Effective Date, the terms and conditions of employment
for pilots employed by New American Airlines and US Airways will be set by the MTA ...
... it shall fully displace and render a nullity any prior collective bargaining agreements applicable
to US Airways pilots and any status quo arising thereunder.
 

Amen, the AOL layed down their swords " KNEW IT" to get the money and now suffer under buyers remorse hoping to be bailed out by RUSS WEBBER AKA MR ELISE EBBERWEINE, by way of seigal aka DUI DOUG , not so neutral! , You guysare so busted!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

So Silver dismissed based on your fantasy that "nullity" equates to DOH? No. In FACT, she did the opposite. Everything you say is rendered baseless, pointless wishful thinking. If your understanding of the legal landscape were even remotely accurate, the West wouldn't have a case.

You are correct sec 4, you do not!

 

[Beancounter]

Yous all' ready to be happy, no matter the seniority outcome?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/11/20/happiest-airlines-for-holiday-travel/?partner=yahootix

🙂

Bean

 

[traderjake]

Where you get this brazen idea that a simple line pilot at a failed,twice BK Schitt airline is more legally informed that 6 federal Judges is beyond me.

 
He and end_of_alpa have watched every episode of Perry Mason.

 

[Res Judicata]

You would have scabbed.

Against you POS? Count on it, scab.

 

[snapthis]

Yous all' ready to be happy, no matter the seniority outcome?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/11/20/happiest-airlines-for-holiday-travel/?partner=yahootix
🙂
Bean

Happy, happy.

Where have I heard that before?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iWp1VOFQxKg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiWp1VOFQxKg

 

[Phoenix]

So Silver dismissed based on your fantasy that "nullity" equates to DOH? No. In FACT, she did the opposite. Everything you say is rendered baseless, pointless wishful thinking. If your understanding of the legal landscape were even remotely accurate, the West wouldn't have a case. The reality is 4 Federal judges disagree with you. The other 2 simply said, "not yet". Where you get this brazen idea that a simple line pilot at a failed,twice BK Schitt airline is more legally informed that 6 federal Judges is beyond me. You don't know ANYTHING. Your selfish scab opinon is as worthless as your pre-merger "career".

Do yourself a favor, and STFU about subject matter you are so woefully Iil-prepared to discuss.

Ok, I'll spot you your assertion about six judges...  They are indeed smarter than I am, and probably you too. 🙂
 
Let's assume that all six federal judges you refer to actually agree with you'se guys on the things Marty told them back in the day when yawl wuz in front of them..... Now let me help you out.... Not one of those judges has ever expressed an opinion about the claim that was at trial in Addington II, because the claim that Judge Silver is now considering was not even written until Judge Silver helped Marty out, ergo not one of those federal judges opinions on past matters has any relevance whatsoever on the trial of the merits of the "ripe" claim that was argued in court over the last month or so.  
 
I don't claim to know more that those six judges, but even they would tell you it is not possible that they have commented on an explicit, written claim that they have not even read.    And some of them would be smart enough to tell you that what they said before is still applicable to Marty's arguments, namely something about "implicit assumption".   😛

 

[Phoenix]

 
He and end_of_alpa have watched every episode of Perry Mason.

Even Perry Mason would affirm that judge's comments are irrelevant to a subsequent claim.  Its a tough concept!  

 

[Phoenix]

Shack. Leonidas vaporized by their own e mails. Done Richard Nixon proud they did.

 
 
Some might posit that there is always an opportunity to make loads of money from people who are passionate about something, and if one could persuade passionate people to accept implicit assumptions then it is conceivably possible to multiply that profit, at least until the assumption is no longer plausible.  
 
If I were considering a donation to Leonidas LLC, I would hope that my passion about the subject would not cause me to gloss over the question.."Is an LLC liable to delver something to me for my donation?" 
 
Now that so many emails are public knowledge, me thinks there is a possibility that passions may be directed in more directions than they previously were. 

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

My guess DUI DOUG MOU till 2018, He has an amazing way of stretching stuff out! MM!

 

[end_of_alpa]

So Silver dismissed based on your fantasy that "nullity" equates to DOH? No. In FACT, she did the opposite. Everything you say is rendered baseless, pointless wishful thinking. If your understanding of the legal landscape were even remotely accurate, the West wouldn't have a case. The reality is 4 Federal judges disagree with you. The other 2 simply said, "not yet". Where you get this brazen idea that a simple line pilot at a failed,twice BK Schitt airline is more legally informed that 6 federal Judges is beyond me. You don't know ANYTHING. Your selfish scab opinon is as worthless as your pre-merger "career".
Do yourself a favor, and STFU about subject matter you are so woefully Iil-prepared to discuss.

Definitely a Marty/Andy/Jennifer legal comment. "You be a smart MF, Beotch". Legal reasoning spoken with a true Ebonics flair. You and AOL are a joke.

 

[end_of_alpa]

He and end_of_alpa have watched every episode of Perry Mason.

There are other avenues of legal reasoning. Certainly the lame arguments Jacobs and and Axel have been putting out lately are documents worthy of the Gettysburg Address! You think you're commercial instrument ratings make YOU a leader? Gear up, Dan.