OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Phoenix]

The west is foaming at the mouth to get NIC in place. Hmmmm.

The word is spreading.

 

[cleardirect]

So the first West poster starts out with the "liar" accusation and ends with the demand that the "liar" must go tell his union leaders to use the "nic and nothing else". I'm sure that attitude will work wonders. Suit yourself. 🙂

We all know the real movement that needs to occur is the company needs to quit hiding behind black robes. When/if a merger is for real the company will be in crisis mode to move forward and they will.

Until the company is ready to rock then the pilots will be relegated to wearing yellow raincoats and making whinny speeches at crew news.

What do you think the latest filing from the company is? Crisis mode. They want an answer but Parker is to weak to make the decision. He know an appeal is 1-2 years and will get the same answer. The company has to make a choice and get a contract.

Till then usapa is relegated to screaming from the bleachers.

 

[Ames]

To Piedmont 1984....I like your idea.

To Luvin737s and Metroyet....as they say, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

breeze

We were part of the solution when it was relevant. Binding arbitration was required and agreed to. Now it is up to one of two entities: Parker or the courts.

You created a new problem when you reneged on your agreement to arbitration. Yes, we on the west are a BIG part of the problem you created. We will remain so until the end.

 

[Ames]

delete

Really curious what you have to say. You're one of the few posters here who makes any sense.

 

[nevergiveup]

What do you think the latest filing from the company is? Crisis mode. They want an answer but Parker is to weak to make the decision. He know an appeal is 1-2 years and will get the same answer. The company has to make a choice and get a contract.

Till then usapa is relegated to screaming from the bleachers.

Anything but crisis mode. You've got to read between the lines to see their motives. You may not like what you see!

 

[Claxon]

Yes, we on the west are a BIG part of the problem you created. We will remain so until the end.

Click below for West pilots Army of Lyingitas update for Halloween, October 31.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgMbZrLmx4M&feature=relmfu

 

[Phoenix]

What do you think the latest filing from the company is? ...

Really? You can't figure out what the company is doing?

 

[Ames]

cactusboy

The only way to move beyond our present circumstance is to first recognize and acknowledge where we are. Progress will only be made if we move forward from where we are, not where we were several years ago.

Both sides need to relinquish their idealogical positions and begin to think in practical terms how to solve this stalemate. And by the way, all who retire, whether east or west, while this legal dispute continues unresolved - for them it is definitely stalemate.

Instead of listening to the hardliners on either side with the loudest voices, USAPA's leadership and BPR need to grow some and listen to the largest number of voices instead.

It's known as 'realpolitik' and we need a strong dose of it here.

Let usapa make the first move. Remove DOH from the Constitution.
You know that won't happen so why even bother to make such a statement?

 

[traderjake]

Until the company is ready to rock then the pilots will be relegated to wearing yellow raincoats and making whinny speeches at crew news.

Closer to the truth is yellow lanyards and whinny posts begging for compromise.

 

[luvn737s]

The west is foaming at the mouth to get NIC in place. Hmmmm.

No, they seek justice and are not interested in being accomplices to the destruction USAPA feels the court has greenlighted.

 

[Ames]

Anything but crisis mode. You've got to read between the lines to see their motives. You may not like what you see!

I'll file that one right along with "Judge Silver gave usapa a green light to negotiate".

 

[luvn737s]

So the first West poster starts out with the "liar" accusation and ends with the demand that the "liar" must go tell his union leaders to use the "nic and nothing else". I'm sure that attitude will work wonders. Suit yourself. 🙂

So if the pilots are unwilling to comply with law voluntarily, the courts will intervene, irrespective of the number of emoticons you use.

 

[prechilill]

Closer to the truth is yellow lanyards and whinny posts begging for compromise.

Exactly.
Question to my east colleague: How can Hummel and you guys call for negotiations to reach a "compromise" when the east refuses to come off date of hire? If you guys don't come off date of hire then by definition we are not "negotiating" for anything but instead accepting DOH. Period. That's not negotiating (in the real world that is- to you guys living in an alter- universe you probably think it is "negotiating"- kind of like saying the Jews voluntarily marched into the shower room at their own will).

 

[EastUS1]

Would you say that rewarding a child during a tantrum is a worthwhile trade for the 2-3 minutes of peace?

Demand that your union leaders lead and accept the NIC....

Or else....Waaaaah!

I think it fitting to just let those stand together as is. 😉

 

[Move2CLT]

Closer to the truth is yellow lanyards and whinny posts begging for compromise.

Oh that was good.

Real good.