The ax falls in PHL

[barbeetantrums]

Where is hack73? Did the IAM silence him?

"I work for the IAM in PIT and I can guarantee you that we do not condone this behavior.In fact we have a meeting tomorrow and if the AGC from PHL condones this behavior , I will resign and try to help the TWU."

He has not visited the board since Feb 10. Is hack73 okay? 🙁

 

[Dea Certe]

I'm afraid I can see no excuse for the behavior of those goons who beat up and from what I understand, caused a 65 year old gentleman to lose an eye.

Unions cannot tolerate this kind of action and expect to have any credibility from the public or its own union members.

Our "fights" cannot be with fellow unionists, it needs to against the corporate greed and union busters who are causing the middle class to lose its standing as middle class workers who provide tax money to our country.

These "fights" need not be with fists, but with brains and our elected representives who have sold out the workers of America.

We, as workers need to write and call our elected officials. We need to stand together against the outsourcing of our labor, the reduction of our benefits and the elimination of retirement/pension plans.

We all need to get more involved in our unions. Do not allow union officers to sell us out! Be prepared to stand up for contracts we, in good faith, agreed to and demand our employers honor the contracts they also agreed to.

Again, there is no excuse for what happened in PHL.

Dea

 

[Hope777]

First, let me say I DO NOT support this type of action. That said, the TWU was WARNED that this type of behavior might occur. They were told Not to come, but chose to ignore all warnings (and I understand there were numerous warnings). Yes the few IAM members involved should be fired, but the TWU also needs to accept some of the blame. No person in their right mind, would go accross the river into Camden (the Murder Capital of the US)with thousands of Dollars and walk the streets at night. People need to take the warnings seriously. When you are TOLD not to come for your safety and that you are unwanted, Why wouldnt you listen to the Warnings? We dont fly airplanes when we get a Warning Lights, do we?

 

[wings396]

Even if the TWU was warned, they should still have a fair chance to free speech. If they didn't come to PHL, the
intimidation factor would have once again won out. Were there any problems,threats, or fights out West when the IAM brought their show to town? These clowns acted out of fear for their beloved IAM paycheck, and they know many are more than fed up with the lack of representation from their Union. The next time there is a Presidential Election, should one of the Canidates be warned of a beating if they show up on their competitors turf?

 

[delldude]

Shame on you delldude, you seem to condone violence rather than acting with dignity, ethics and reason.

 

[delldude]

Where is hack73? Did the IAM silence him?

"I work for the IAM in PIT and I can guarantee you that we do not condone this behavior.In fact we have a meeting tomorrow and if the AGC from PHL condones this behavior , I will resign and try to help the TWU."

He has not visited the board since Feb 10. Is hack73 okay? 🙁

they busted his fingers so he can't post anymore.

 

[Bob Owens]

Don't you think these azzclowns lost their credibility as unionists when they jumped (with a 6 to 1 advantage) other unionists?

Unionists? I thought they jumped TWU reps trying to get a vote that would end up decertifying the IAM and leaving those workers non-union.

Do those guys count as unionists? The TWU/ATD is a company union, run by members of AA management, some still on AA payroll, so they really dont count as unionists.

I heard one of them was George Roberts son. He got the job as an organizer because his dad was one of Sonny Halls lapdogs. George was another one of those union officials who were kept around despite the fact that their employer, and all their members, lost their jobs years ago.

 

[Art at ISP]

First, let me say I DO NOT support this type of action. That said, the TWU was WARNED that this type of behavior might occur. They were told Not to come, but chose to ignore all warnings (and I understand there were numerous warnings). Yes the few IAM members involved should be fired, but the TWU also needs to accept some of the blame. No person in their right mind, would go accross the river into Camden (the Murder Capital of the US)with thousands of Dollars and walk the streets at night. People need to take the warnings seriously. When you are TOLD not to come for your safety and that you are unwanted, Why wouldnt you listen to the Warnings? We dont fly airplanes when we get a Warning Lights, do we?

Hope,

With all due respect, the fact that TWU was WARNED could be interpreted as a criminal act. The threat of violence is tantamount to the act itself. Regardless of "warnings", the TWU had the right to come and to present their information...last I checked this is the United States of AMERICA, not the United States of IAM.

That said, thuggery is thuggery....no matter how you cut it, the terminations APPEAR to be justified, and criminal prosecutions should be pressed to the fullest extent of the law where sufficient evidence exists.

I applaud US for having the guts to fire these people...I just wonder how much actual work they did while on the job.....

 

[hp_fa]

you all should be ashamed of yourselves for your expectations of blood....obviously these persons have breached some area of the law...its for a court to decide....not any of us.
furthermore in your zeal to discredit IAM you a-holes have been rather prejudiced in your postings towards what are other trade unionists...i do not condem or condone their actions by any means...but i cringe thinking about how everyone has reacted and wonder in a situation on the job as to how any of you would proceed in defense of another union brother.you all should look in the mirror...you have no credibility as unionists in my yard.

Just how good of unionists were the 20+ thugs who beat up four persons? How do you explain away their actions to the point of being so upset at the response of those who see this as a gross criminal act?

I suspect your loyalties are misplaced on this issue.

First, let me say I DO NOT support this type of action. That said, the TWU was WARNED that this type of behavior might occur. They were told Not to come, but chose to ignore all warnings (and I understand there were numerous warnings). Yes the few IAM members involved should be fired, but the TWU also needs to accept some of the blame. ... When you are TOLD not to come for your safety and that you are unwanted, Why wouldnt you listen to the Warnings? We dont fly airplanes when we get a Warning Lights, do we?

What you are saying is that people who obey the law should be worried every time a punk (of any age) warns you not to do something or something bad may happen? That is a bad argument to have to support.

 

[barbeetantrums]

22 US Airways baggage
handlers fired over beatings

Twenty-two US Airways baggage handlers, all members of the International Association of Machinists working at the Philadelphia International Airport, were fired yesterday after an internal airline investigation into a Feb. 8 incident at the Philadelphia Airport Marriot hotel, US Airways spokesman Carlo Bertolini said.
Five organizers from the Transportation Workers Union were beaten, allegedly by IAM members and officers. The two unions are competing over which should represent about 8,000 current and furloughed baggage handlers of the recently combined US Airways and America West airlines. No police charges have been filed so far. IAM officials could not be reached for comment. The workers' contract does include a grievance procedure. 🙂

 

[delldude]

I suspect your loyalties are misplaced on this issue.

I stand by my original statements.

big issue west of the mississippi....

 

[HPearlyretiree]

First, let me say I DO NOT support this type of action. That said, the TWU was WARNED that this type of behavior might occur. They were told Not to come, but chose to ignore all warnings (and I understand there were numerous warnings). Yes the few IAM members involved should be fired, but the TWU also needs to accept some of the blame. No person in their right mind, would go accross the river into Camden (the Murder Capital of the US)with thousands of Dollars and walk the streets at night. People need to take the warnings seriously. When you are TOLD not to come for your safety and that you are unwanted, Why wouldnt you listen to the Warnings? We dont fly airplanes when we get a Warning Lights, do we?

Oh please, your twisted logic is painful. Are you that brainwashed that you have to find ways to excuse violence? Warning is intimidation, and its wrong too. Its a free country, and TWU had every right to be there, even if some goons WARNED them. Or maybe you want to live in a world where union folk can do what they want and act like warlords?

Cognative Dissonance, look it up.

 

[delldude]

Oh please, your twisted logic is painful.

please,please....all this diatribe about IAM members being apathetic...these are probably the 25 most active IAM people in history.

 

[PhxMama]

Considering all the negative opinions of Tempe at least they did the right thing and terminated employees. Im sure they had better things to do than deal with this ugly, embarassing situation. I guess I think we need to worry about how to run a profitable airline. If the employees were terminated lets put this behind us and look to building a world class airline we can all be proud of.

 

[barbeetantrums]

Considering all the negative opinions of Tempe at least they did the right thing and terminated employees. Im sure they had better things to do than deal with this ugly, embarassing situation. I guess I think we need to worry about how to run a profitable airline. If the employees were terminated lets put this behind us and look to building a world class airline we can all be proud of.

It ain't over yet. This Energizer Bunny will keep beating the drum.

These terminations should be just the first step to hitting rock bottom.