US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Black Swan]

After spending millions of dollars in PIC assessments USAPA discovered their first PIC law firm (Bingham & McCutcheon) had a conflict of interest with State Street Bank & Trust. According to USAPA the union fired Bingham & McCutcheon and replaced them with O'Dwyer and Bernstein because of "its extensive experience in the pension arenas and experience and depth of knowledge of State Street Bank and Towers Perrin."

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However, hold the presses. Mike Cleary, Randy Mowery, Paul DiOrio, and Tracy Parella were the only people to know USAPA was going to file a Status Quo lawsuit against US Airways. Who filed the suit for USAPA? The new PIC law firm of O'Dwyer and Bernstein. The same firm USAPA hired to replace Bingham & McCutcheon to do the PIC work. Why? In my opinion, with USAPA is now operating about $400,000 over budget for the year with no money to defend its illegal slowdown litigation Cleary and his tight inner circle could be using PIC monies to pay for the Status Quo lawsuit against US Airways. If true, where will the money come from to fund PIC after two years of fruitless work? Will their be another assessment, increase in dues, or cut in services?

What "illegal slowdown" are you talking about? Everybody I know is extremely concerned with the CLT operation with regard to the RJ's speeding around like cruise missiles. None of them on the taxi lines, and every one of them a real hazard with the speed they taxi. Especially at C concourse at the choke point at the end. Nobody is doing anything illegal. It makes absolute sense to have both crew members heads up, and taxiing at an especially judicious speed to avoid being hit by an RJ. Your allegations are preposterous.

 

[767one]

What "illegal slowdown" are you talking about? Everybody I know is extremely concerned with the CLT operation with regard to the RJ's speeding around like cruise missiles. None of them on the taxi lines, and every one of them a real hazard with the speed they taxi. Especially at C concourse at the choke point at the end. Nobody is doing anything illegal. It makes absolute sense to have both crew members heads up, and taxiing at an especially judicious speed to avoid being hit by an RJ. Your allegations are preposterous.

Yep, not to mention that those taxi lines don't give you clearance in CLT even if both aircraft are on their respective lines they can still hit. When I see a constant line of aircraft coming around c concourse I set the brake and wait until the nascar practice is over. I've been doing that in CLT for years. If there is a collision I'm going to be sitting still when it happens. My last 2 trips have been late 3 out of 4 flights due to waiting for mtc to show up with an item in the log for over 1 hr., waiting for a fax copy for a temporary mel for 90 min. and a issue mtc discovered at deptarture time not to mention waiting for a gate for 31 min. in PHX. Even doing our jobs 100% you can always count on someone else to drop the ball.


Regards,


Bob

 

[USA320Pilot]

Safety Not First With USAPA

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[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Name calling already?

Is it the west pilots that decide what flights are done by which pilots? Would that be management? Stolen 24% of the jobs? really! So you think that you would have another 600 east pilots if the company was not maintaining our contractual requirements? Think again!

At the merger you had 1700 FURLOUGHED pilots they are back now. AWA had none but current do have furloughed pilots what jobs were stolen?

The Nicolau split this new company 2/3 east pilots get 2 of every 3 jobs. How the H#LL do you even think that the west can "steal the rest as well"? You have a warped sense of reality. It is the east pilots that threw out a neutral third party decision in order to force a seniority list that put 85% of the west below FURLOUGHED east pilots. Now that is stealing.

Hey moron it is called "ATTRITION" get used to it, EAST MIN FLEET, WEST MIN BLOCK, If you brought no assets to the nerger were sorry, your BS is getting old! MM! Check your conditions and restrictions, No stealing going on.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Safety Not First With USAPA

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You get more hilarious with every post, where is the survey the FAA asked USAIR to produce? Have you ever flown an INTERNATIONAL WIDEBODY ROUTE? Survey says, never happend, do you actually believe the BS you put out! They had no survey, because they didn't want to do it!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Safety Not First With USAPA

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MR BIASED, lets read the "WHOLE LETTER OK" 50k is the most expensive STC and installation, do the math, where is the USAIR COMPANY SAFETY SURVEY? Publish it pleez! http://www.wsoctv.com/download/2011/0416/27565095.pdf

 

[Barrister]

Safety Not First With USAPA

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You moron.....do you kow how long the crews have been telling management that satcom was needed.
You know how long OTHER carriers have had satcom.....how about from day one. You are an idiot!!!

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[mrbreeze]

Safety Not First With USAPA

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This is not a factual story, so quit calling it that. It's an opinion and should be call the big whopper of a tale!

At least begin with saying "IMHO"

breeze
<_<

 

[exB717Flyer]

Are you claiming that APA gave TWA DOH with conditions and restrictions? Tell the truth. Integrity matters.

I made no such claim and tell nothing but the truth. (DOH wouldve been great us -- which is why they didnt give us that.) The APA stapled 2/3 of the TWA pilots and dove-tailed the top third up. A fence allows a derived number of TWAers to remain captains in STL. What else do you need to know?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I made no such claim and tell nothing but the truth. (DOH wouldve been great us -- which is why they didnt give us that.) The APA stapled 2/3 of the TWA pilots and dove-tailed the top third up. A fence allows a derived number of TWAers to remain captains in STL. What else do you need to know?

For what it is worth, NOTHING!, ALPA ABANDON the TWA pilots like it did the USAIR pilots! MM!

 

[cleardirect]

Hey moron it is called "ATTRITION" get used to it, EAST MIN FLEET, WEST MIN BLOCK, If you brought no assets to the nerger were sorry, your BS is getting old! MM! Check your conditions and restrictions, No stealing going on.

Name calling already?

Is it the west pilots that decide what flights are done by which pilots? Would that be management? Stolen 24% of the jobs? really! So you think that you would have another 600 east pilots if the company was not maintaining our contractual requirements? Think again!

At the merger you had 1700 FURLOUGHED pilots they are back now. AWA had none but current do have furloughed pilots what jobs were stolen?

The Nicolau split this new company 2/3 east pilots get 2 of every 3 jobs. How the H#LL do you even think that the west can "steal the rest as well"? You have a warped sense of reality. It is the east pilots that threw out a neutral third party decision in order to force a seniority list that put 85% of the west below FURLOUGHED east pilots. Now that is stealing.

You are getting tired of my BS really. Tell me what part do you think is BS?

That the east had 1700 FURLOUGHED pilots?
That management not west pilots decide where flying goes?
That Nicolau integrated 2 east for every 3 pilots?
That it was neutral third party that created the seniority list.

Exactly what part are you calling BS? So back at you moron!

 

[cleardirect]

For what it is worth, NOTHING!, ALPA ABANDON the TWA pilots like it did the USAIR pilots! MM!

Strange world that you live in. It was the east pilots that voted ALPA off the property it was not ALPA that left east pilots.

ALPA did not abandon east pilots. ALPA and Prater tried to trick the system and go outside the merger policy by inventing Rice, DEN and Wye river. ALPA did not abandon you they tried to help you and screw the west yet you still could not be helped. Now you claim they abandoned you.

Warped sense of entitlement you have.

 

[Phoenix]

I made no such claim and tell nothing but the truth. (DOH wouldve been great us -- which is why they didnt give us that.) The APA stapled 2/3 of the TWA pilots and dove-tailed the top third up. A fence allows a derived number of TWAers to remain captains in STL. What else do you need to know?

Do you know what a rhetorical question is?

 

[767one]

This is not a factual story, so quit calling it that. It's an opinion and should be call the big whopper of a tale!

At least begin with saying "IMHO"

breeze
<_<Mr. Breeze,

I don't think that poster has any humble in him. His posts are bull**** and not even good bull**** at that.


Regards,


Bob

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

You are getting tired of my BS really. Tell me what part do you think is BS?

That the east had 1700 FURLOUGHED pilots?
That management not west pilots decide where flying goes?
That Nicolau integrated 2 east for every 3 pilots?
That it was neutral third party that created the seniority list.

Exactly what part are you calling BS? So back at you moron!

Management does decide where the revenue(flying goes) ! A NEUTRAL PARTY? SUBJECTIVE! Under ALPA merger policy does anyone have a choice or is there a policy decided by whom it will benefit?, who decides what policy to use? How is that done? Was it ever changed? and when was it changed and why? Could it have been to take ADVANTAGE of ones companies economic strength due to it's mngmnt over another? 3 sure things in LIFE, DEATH , TAXES, and age 65 retirement! DOH the only standard that has FINITE variables, get used to it, your situation that is, MM! It probably is going to get worse from here on out, but hey those ITT videos sure are funny! BTW the NIC is DEAD!