US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvn737s]

No, I'm afraid it is fact. I guess you are not a MIGS......"two all beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun".................

Wrong. Wrong, and ...Whatever.

Your numbers don't jibe with anything else printed, so when you can come back with verifiable numbers let us know.

 

[No Land Green]

I am sure once the captains figure that out they are not going to be real happy with your AFO's.

You sure do have a pulse on the East LMAO...............

 

[luvn737s]

Have you ever heard the term "ride this pony until it drops"?

Backpedalling will get you nowhere, but I'll take that as a "okay, maybe I used the wrong term".

Having "nothing to lose" implies you are going to shoot the pony because you blame him for giving away your pension and allowing the Nicolau award to be used. 😛

 

[Pi brat]

I am sure once the captains figure that out they are not going to be real happy with your AFO's.

If that really all that happened don't you think the captains would have figured it out by now?

 

[No Land Green]

Wrong. Wrong, and ...Whatever.

Your numbers don't jibe with anything else printed, so when you can come back with verifiable numbers let us know.

You are DEAD wrong now and you were at Wye River..............Freund was right LOL.

I guess the Company has the numbers wrong too, just who do you believe in life? Anyone, yourself?

 

[Pi brat]

Backpedalling will get you nowhere, but I'll take that as a "okay, maybe I used the wrong term".

Having "nothing to lose" implies you are going to shoot the pony because you blame him for giving away your pension and allowing the Nicolau award to be used. 😛

Are you arrogant, stupid or both? It's really not that hard to grasp, but like I said, just don't believe me and ignore it.

No, if they shot it, how would they ride it? Geez

 

[luvn737s]

You and a lot of your buddies have consistently lumped all east pilots into the same category.

No, I happen to know there is a fairly sizeable and growing contingent on the east preparing a card drive in cooperation with many west pilots, so I really can't lump ALL east pilots in the same category. Unfortunately, Kleary will not provide any opportunities for the east pilots to vote on substantive issues and reveal the true perspective of the east line pilots. He knows all too well that a vote would reveal how little support he has and would make further power grabs a little more difficult.

 

[No Land Green]

No, I happen to know there is a fairly sizeable and growing contingent on the east preparing a card drive in cooperation with many west pilots, so I really can't lump ALL east pilots in the same category. Unfortunately, Kleary will not provide any opportunities for the east pilots to vote on substantive issues and reveal the true perspective of the east line pilots. He knows all too well that a vote would reveal how little support he has and would make further power grabs a little more difficult.

You must be good friends with Charley Mike. Yeah, he has the "pulse of the East" too......LMAO!!!!!

 

[Pi brat]

No, I happen to know there is a fairly sizeable and growing contingent on the east preparing a card drive in cooperation with many west pilots, so I really can't lump ALL east pilots in the same category. Unfortunately, Kleary will not provide any opportunities for the east pilots to vote on substantive issues and reveal the true perspective of the east line pilots. He knows all too well that a vote would reveal how little support he has and would make further power grabs a little more difficult.

Hey, I've welcomed a card drive. When will it be coming? Is for ALPA and if so what are they waiting for?

What is it that you want Cleary to let you vote on?

 

[Pi brat]

You must be good friends with Charley Mike. Yeah, he has the "pulse of the East" too......LMAO!!!!!

If they only knew, if they only knew............. :blink:

 

[Barrister]

I doubt it's an obsession, but more like a comforting fact that it continues to put financial pressure and motivation on many (if not all) east pilots to come to their senses and abandon a lost cause. You guys have prognosticated yourselves that a victory from Kasher would mean "game over" for ANY movement, and would seal the continued stalemate for decades. Have you not? Therefore the reverse can also be extrapolated from your own predictions.

Now about your obsession with (and unsolicited private message about) ALPA...

For goodness sake you moron just tell us.....WHY DO YOU CARE........did a US pilot steal your wife or
something years ago????? 11000 UAL/Co pilots and exactly 1 cares what happens here
c'mon dude level with us......you will be feel better and your views just might gain
a percentage point or 2 of credibility!!!!

NICDOA
NPJB

 

[No Land Green]

If they only knew, if they only knew............. :blink:

This is so entertaining too.....

 

[cleardirect]

You sure do have a pulse on the East LMAO...............

So when LOS 93 is a failure and your captains finally understand that the only pay raise comes with the Nicolau. Do you really believe that they will continue to support the AFO club until they retire so that the AFO can have their seat and they get nothing?

 

[767jetz]

For goodness sake you moron just tell us.....WHY DO YOU CARE.......

So it is your belief that the HP/US merger decision by the courts on seniority will set a precedent for UA/CO merger and future mergers

Yes.

If binding arbitration is overturned then it sets a bad precedent for all types of negotiations that need a legal remedy to overcome impasse or to pressure parties to find middle ground.

 

[767jetz]

Of course it will. The recalled furloughed UAL Pilots are going to the CAL side. They "bring NOTHING to the table" in the UAL/CAL merger. They are new hires now at CAL, I meant "New UAL" LMAO!!!!!!

This ought to be good to watch that one play out, LMAO!!!!!! Jetz is NO friend of his unfortunate furloughed UAL Pilot brothers and sisters........

The comedy never ends here......I wonder how much does tea cost in china, hmmmmm.........any of you "mars" Westies know?

Not exactly. As per the transition agreement, UA pilots recalled to the CO side bid as new hires at CO but are paid at the rate at which they left, not new hire pay. They also keep their DOH at UA for SLI integration, which most likely will be at the bottom, but ahead of any pilots who returned to the CO side AFTER the snapshot was taken. In other words, furloughed CO pilots and furloughed UA pilots will be slotted in some fashion.

The union has stated since the very beginning that historically furloughed pilots are not placed ahead of active pilots in any SLI.

My opinion of slotting and furloughs is not situationally motivated, as with some of you. I happen to be friends with several furloughed pilots, but will not support placing them above active CO pilots. Nor would I support DOH even though it would benefit me greatly in doing so. I realize this is a concept non of the east AFO's or their supporters can come to terms with, as evidenced by the way you treat your very own who do not support YOUR point of view. No surprise there.