US Pilots Labor Discussion

[toganoflex]

And it all begins with - compromise.

Just sayin.

Been there, tried that. It was called med/arb.

You can stay on LOA 93 while you figure it out.

Just sayin.

 

[toganoflex]

But we can talk about this again - maybe same time next year, or the year after. I'm pretty patient.

And you can keep making less money than RJ Captains.

Fight on Cappy.

 

[767one]

So for the next 5-10 years you and all the east pilots plan on doing exactly what you are doing to day? After we get a contract you are all going to continue this same level of awareness writing up light bulbs and smudged placards?

If so where was all of this concern 6 months ago, a year ago? Why are you just now coming to the safety party? Where you unsafe before?

It's not a bad idea to be safe, safer, safest. Hopefully this will continue a long time. I've always been at the safety party. My company demands it.

Regards,


Bob

 

[Code Name V]

Solidarity?

Unity?

Nice words it is too bad that you east pilots have no idea what that means. From day one of usapa's unholy birth they and the east pilot have done nothing but divide this group. What is the mantra that east pilots spew everyday. Majority rules! When you leave out 1/3 of your group and attack another portion for disagreeing with you that is not unity.

usapa has never once ever tried to create unity or solidarity. RICO, Section 29, false allegations of ID theft, more law suits, removing west pilots from committees, removing west reps from meetings. Take a look down the terminal. How many US Airways pilots are wearing the cowardly yellow lanyards? All of them? 50%, 20%? This is the stand that Cleary wants to make leverage? Lanyards!

Good luck! usapa might be dangerous if they had any clue what the heck they were doing.

I know it irks you to know that the east is as unified as when we threw out alpa and it's getting stronger every day. Just because the west has decided to make it their agenda to destroy usapa because you were not reasonable at Why River does not change that. You do nothing but try to destroy the union at every opportunity and then tell them that they are responsible for you not being unified in the fight. Hypocrites to the end!

The unfortunate result (for you) is that we will continue on our own and accomplish our goals without you. We will never be put together. You have made that clear and direct. Thinking about how you will affect our goals is no more applicable to how american/delta/sw/etc. will affect our outcome. You are a separate company that shares a name only.

V

 

[Code Name V]

Excuse me, but it's neither unity nor solidarity when less than 2/3 of the pilot group wears them. Imagine a strike vote that had a 60-65% "yes" result. The company would laugh at you and bulldoze right over you. You are only proving their point for them. You have no unity. You'd be better off not saying a thing and letting them wonder if you had unity, than prove that you have none. What a bunch of amateurs.

Want proof? Ask any labor expert what kind of an affirmative strike vote you need to be successful. If it's not in the high 90's you are dead in the water. Even a 90% vote will put you dead in the water.

Some of your guys made fun of UA's "Hats Off" campaign not long ago. Granted it was nothing but symbolic. But we had almost 98% compliance. That show of solidarity bugged management so much, they issued a revision and removed the hat from the FOM as part of the required uniform. They knoew that sending out the uniform police to enforce the hat would be futile.

If US management pushes forward with their plan, your mis-led pilots will fall one by one. Once a few examples have been made, watch how fast guys stop wearing the lanyard in direct defiance of the direction of your union officers. And listen closely for the laughter coming from corporate headquarters. You'll be able to hear it well east of the Mississippi.

Good luck with your "safety campaign." (ie: distraction)

Hey 767, whats up? still here towing the alpa line cause you have no life? Do you and your buddy BB live together? Again, even you know that your bs is just that. a 66% vote when you include the west is as irrelevant as a 30% vote if you include american. Besides, if the west comes over to fly our routes, who will fly theirs? Oh yea, their routes make no money so maybe it makes sense. Makes no matter. And why do you care again? is alpo right around the corner coming to someones rescue and you can take responsibility? glad to see alpo renewed your contract. They are great at spending others money without their consent. And if it's only a 1% chance, it would have been money well spent to get that 11 Mil/yr. back. Hang in there shill.

V

 

[luvn737s]

It's not a bad idea to be safe, safer, safest. Hopefully this will continue a long time. I've always been at the safety party. My company demands it.

Clarify something for me Bob. Would that be safe. as in shooting a hole in the airplane due to careless handling of a firearm, or safer, as in damaging an airplane in Hartford by racing to the gate, or would it be safest, as in doing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage to two airplanes due to careless taxiing of an A330 in Charlotte?

And could a simple lanyard prevented all this???

 

[cactusboy53]

Full page USAPA "safety" ad in today's USA TODAY on page 5B.

 

[No Land Green]

Clarify something for me Bob. Would that be safe. as in shooting a hole in the airplane due to careless handling of a firearm, or safer, as in damaging an airplane in Hartford by racing to the gate, or would it be safest, as in doing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage to two airplanes due to careless taxiing of an A330 in Charlotte?

And could a simple lanyard prevented all this???

"two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun"

 

[No Land Green]

Full page USAPA "safety" ad in today's USA TODAY on page 5B.

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!

 

[cactusboy53]

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!

GRANDSTANDING is more like it. Perhaps even libel. Mike Cleary...the best fund raiser Leonidas has!

 

[crazystnic]

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!

agreed, this place is turning into some of the Night Freight 727 Charter companies I used to work for...
The time has come and gone for managment to stop managing by intimidation and taking control of the captains...
read any of those FOM updates lately...?

 

[No Land Green]

And could a simple lanyard prevented all this???

I heard low visibility takeoffs can be a challenge in Hawaii...............Yeah, I agree a "lanyard" would NOT have "prevented this"......LMAO

 

[luvthe9]

Great ad, if the public only knew half!!!! Thanks Tempe.

 

[Phoenix]

Clarify something for me Bob. Would that be safe. as in shooting a hole in the airplane due to careless handling of a firearm, or safer, as in damaging an airplane in Hartford by racing to the gate, or would it be safest, as in doing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage to two airplanes due to careless taxiing of an A330 in Charlotte?

And could a simple lanyard prevented all this???

Are you attempting to mock a safety awareness campaign by pointing out blatant safety deficiencies?

T.E.M. baby. It permeates everything the training department talks about!

 

[Res Judicata]

There isn't a person in America with an IQ above 45 that doesn't know EXACTLY what this trumped up "safety" B.S. really is. You guys are absolutely delusional if you think your illegal work action is going to accomplish a solitary thing..other than getting your fake union sued into BK, mass terminations of membership, and potential jail time for the leadership. It's USAPA that has totally spun out of control. The glaring, unavoidable fact that USAPA has been an utter failure is driving Cleary, (who was already insane) over the edge. Every time USAPA pulls a desperate stunt it signals the death knell of this failed experiment. No union in the history of Aviation has EVER operated as recklessly as USAPA. It's actions are increasingly manic, irresponsible, desperate, and pointless. Nobody gives a Rat's ### about the "safety" of US Airways. It's a cheap shot thrown by a bunch of absurdly incompetent, delusional maniacs. One thing is crystal clear:

USAPA is on the ropes and going down fast. Every ill advised action is getting more and more desperate. In fact, the only thing blaring louder than USAPA is the Cleary's raw, naked desperation.

Keep your coward yellow lanyards handy, you're going to need a tourniquet shortly.