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That you all are so full of bs that your eyes are brown....claiming to have absolute knowledge after the ruling is something a 1st grader can do. As someone else said, if you and $eham were so certain of the outcome and thought ripeness was clear-cut why present any argument except on ripeness? Surely you knew that the 9th wouldn't rule any other way - right?

BTW, I didn't say anyone on the en blanc panel disagreed on the en blanc decision nor did I say that SCOTUS disagreed - might have your glasses checked.

Jim
 
BPR Telephonic Meeting Notice: September 24, 2011

In accordance with the USAPA Constitution and By Laws, there will be a special telephonic meeting of the Board of Pilot Representatives to commence on September 27, 2011, at 1400 ET. The agenda will be:

Submission of agreements with special counsel Sarah Diane McShea and the accounting firm of Holtz, Rubenstein and Reminick to the Board for approval. To be in compliance with the Board resolution that authorized the engagement of these two firms, the Board directed that the agreements be brought back to the Board for approval.

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USAPA General Counsel Lee Seham, USAPA's lead attorney hired to fight the Nicolau Award, has been accused by the union of billing practice irregularities. Specifically, USAPA said, "Accountability Services reported that they found the previous billing practice by the Seham law firm as 'bizarre'."

Meanwhile, USAPA has called for a BPR Telephonic Meeting for today (where members will get 5 hours of FPL while working on their cell phone from home) to review the "Submission of agreements with special counsel Sarah Diane McShea and the accounting firm of Holtz, Rubenstein and Reminick to the Board for approval. To be in compliance with the Board resolution that authorized the engagement of these two firms, the Board directed that the agreements be brought back to the Board for approval."

Also noteworthy, there are unsubstantiated rumors that Mike Cleary asked Seham to file USAPA's Status Quo lawsuit against US Airways in federal court and Seham refused to do so. Then without BPR notification Mike Cleary (with only Randy Mowery, Tracy Parella, and Paul DiOrio's knowledge) hired O'Dwyer and Bernstein to file the union's Status Quo lawsuit against US Airways in U.S. District court. Interestingly, O'Dwyer and Bernstein were hired by the BPR just weeks before filing the Status Quo lawsuit to conduct PIC work because USAPA said the original PIC law firm of Bingham and McCutcheon needed to be replaced because they had a "conflict of interest with State Street Bank and Towers Perrin." Hummmm????

These actions, along with others, have caused USAPA to become somewhat financially distressed with about a $1 million deficit per the following expenses:

FY Budget Net Cash Flow Deficit - $209,381.70
USA Today Safety Culture Ad - $153,300
New NAC Members (line pilots loyal to Cleary) FPL - approx. $350,000
New NAC Members Stipend (line pilots loyal to Cleary) - $35,000
Status Quo Lawsuit Legal Fees - ???
TRO/Preliminary Injunction Lawsuit Legal Fees - ???

"In my opinion," USAPA is running about a $1 million deficit has has 4 options to balance the books: increase dues, assess the pilots, cut services, or borrow from its meager $3 million cash on hand.

However, could Cleary, Mowery, DiOrio, and Parella have created a sinister plot to balance USAPA's books by drumming up "bizarre" billing practices against Lee Seham? Could these charges lead USAPA to terminate Seham's contract and then the union not pay S,S,M,&P's outstanding invoices so the union can balance its budget?

Furthermore, will Cleary fire Seham and USAPA's attorney who is its so-called anti-Nicolau Award expert and then be able to permanently retain O'Dwyer and Bernstein to fight the company (instead of fighting the Nicolau Award)? Would O'Dwyer and Bernstein then become the union's General Counsel, PIC attorneys, Status Quo lawsuit attorneys, DJ lawsuit attorneys, and the Preliminary/Permanent Injunction lawsuit attorneys?

Prediction: I could be wrong, but I believe USAPA will fire Lee Seham (and the NAC's Professional Negotiator Scott Peterson from S,S,M,&P would simultaneously be let go) and replace S,S,M,&P with O'Dwyer and Bernstein. Therefore, has USAPA's anti-Nicolau Award fight transitioned into a fight against US Airways and its management team with anti-Nicolau Award union supporters now being thrown under the bus?

Time will tell, but don't be surprised if Seham is let go and O'Dwyer and Bernstein retained who as a new law firm has no history in the seniority integration fight or PIC investigation, but has been very busy filing the Status Quo lawsuit and defending USAPA against US Airways TRO/Preliminary Injunction, and Permanent Injunction complaints.
 
Do you have more than 17 years in this hell hole? I bet not. I know just where you belong on the list. If the East is squirming on 93 the west will be shaking more than a meth addict whore in church. Get ready kid your in for a big surprise.

You would win that bet, because what I have is much more than 17 years for the company that BOUGHT your bankrupt carrier. Me and every West pilot only have around 5 year of experience with your "hell hole", and since we are not on that shitty contract you decided to keep, we really have 0 years experience in the "hell hole".

It is you and the usapa supporters that want to steal my position from me that have spent all the time in the "hell hole" you have so rightfully dug yourselvles into.

So, you win Mikey, I was not stupid enough to ever try and get hired at your "hell hole". I had a much better gig, and still do, and I am senior to the likes of not only Coello, who works for the scab union that is facilitaing his scab antics, I am senior to Theur, Bradford, Cleary, Mowery..and just about every usapa officers name I have ever heard.

I am more than ready for any "big surprise". Actually, after the complete miscarriage of justice that has occurred, nothing would really surprise me anymore. So I welcome any "big surprise".

Oh, BTW "kid", that meth addict shaking in church is were Cleary and the usapa BPR are headed when their DOH scab dream comes crashing down, and we put a 40 year old West captain in the left seat of the 330 just to keep them from getting it. Can't wait to meet Cleary face to face. This will be fun!!!!
 
I think everyone should be required to do as Hate has done in the past - post a list of their "sure things". Then when they're wrong, like Hate, they can just change the date on the list and ignore being wrong - but everyone else will know that they were wrong... :lol:

there ya go again, arguing just to be arguing. I see Hate on here MAYBE once every 2 weeks. Move2 has been posting 23+ times each day....big difference.

Ok, throw out some more of that gibberish that you live on, but try to make it factual...not just agrumentative..

breeze
 
Hi Jim,

With all due respect may I ask what "contract" you are referring to?

Let me understand this...If east stays on LOA93, why would the company want to offer up ANY contract even if it included the "nic"???

Even team tempe is smart enough to not derail their money train!




Exactly. If the choice is LOA 93 or a contract with Nic, I suspect the contract would pass. USAPA doesn't want the Nic issue settled for some reason...wonder why?

Jim
 
I think everyone should be required to do as Hate has done in the past - post a list of their "sure things". Then when they're wrong, like Hate, they can just change the date on the list and ignore being wrong - but everyone else will know that they were wrong... :lol:

Jim,


You never really get it. The pulse of the east pilot is money. Plain and simple. LOA 93 pay restoration will provide that. I told you this a long time ago.

Addington.......................we spanked all over you on that one. WIN EAST

LOA 93 Pay Restoration.....^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pending

PBGC law suit...................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pending

MDA...............................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pending

Attrition..........................25 new hires per month starting Jan. 2012 WIN EAST

Going forward every new hire in the east will always vote with the east pilot group. They will enjoy rapid advancement to the left seat and eventually left seat on the wide body. New hires will be looking at the quickest way to the money trail. All trails lead to the east! That you can take to the bank.

Hate
 
More extremely astute observations by.......

Since you are into reading about stories that have NOTHING to do with the SLI & the pilot merger process that was followed completely, here are some other such stories from the archives for your reading pleasure:

USAir plans to cut jet flights, 170 jobs at BWI Some fear move may hurt airport's stature as hub.
February 06, 1992|By Ross Hetrick and John H. Gormley Jr.

In an effort to turn around its money-losing operation at the Baltimore-Washington International Airport, USAir announced yesterday that it plans to cut the number of jet flights from the airport, increase the number of commuter departures and cut full-time employment at BWI by nearly 170 workers.

Travel agents and analysts said the move will reduce Baltimore's stature as a hub and mean lower-quality service for the many travelers who dislike propeller planes.


US Airways to cut attendant jobs
Published: Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 8:34 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, January 1, 2004 at 12:00 a.m.

US Airways will lay off more than 550 flight attendants, most of them in Philadelphia, next month after hundreds of others returned from voluntary leave, which was intended to help the airline weather its weak finances and bankruptcy.
Company and union officials said the Arlington, Va.-based airline will lay off 552 flight attendants on Jan. 15, based on seniority.
The layoffs apparently mark the end of voluntary furloughs the nation's seventh-largest airline offered its employees to stave off job cuts.

Under the offer, veteran employees could go on leave to preserve a younger worker's job.


Unions accept massive cutbacks at US Airways
By Paul Sherman
6 January 2003

Union leaders representing 32,000 pilots, flight attendants, mechanics and other workers at US Airways have agreed to cuts in pay, reduction of benefits and changes to work rules that will save the airline more than $1.2 billion a year.
The cuts were part of a bankruptcy reorganization plan filed by US Airways on December 20. In total, the airline plans to cut costs by $1.8 billion a year. The airline also plans to lay off another 2,700 workers by April. In the past two years the airline has cut 14,000 jobs.

US Airways presented the reorganization plan shortly after it finished negotiating $200 million a year in additional concessions from its four major unions. Only a few months earlier, the unions had granted more than $900 million a year in pay and benefits cuts. But creditors deemed that the cuts were not enough and threatened to drive the airline into liquidation if even more draconian measures were not taken.

The pilots union, the Air Line Pilots Association, approved new pay cuts totaling $99 million a year. This is on top of $465 million in annual concessions agreed to by the pilots in October. The airline has already laid off 2,000 pilots(many of whom which have been hired by the Cinderella airline America West based in Phonenix, AZ). There are currently 4,000 pilots still working.
 
Jim,


You never really get it.

Since all of that had nothing to do with what I said, I don't think it's I that don't get it. Remember your list of "wins" the east was going to get in 2010? Then the same list but for 2011? Last I saw you'd updated again - to the rest of 2011 and 2012. That's what I was talking about - everyone have a list of "sure things" then they only have to change the year when they get it wrong. Thank of the convenience - just post the same list each year, forget about being wrong, and claim how you "were right all along but you westies wouldn't listen" if any of those "slam dunks" happens to come true... :lol:

BTW, Addington turned out to be a draw. You can call yourself a car and stay in the garage all the time, but it doesn't make you a car. Calling the Addington an east win is no different. The DFR risk is still there for USAPA if they don't heed the words of the 9th. All the 9th did was kick the can of worms further down the road. Attrition - another eastie says 30 a month starting during 2012 (that training float) and you say 25 a month starting in a few months (basically a year before that attrition starts to kick in). If nothing else you all need to get your stories straight. From what was said at the last CLT crew news, you're both wrong.

Jim
 
Meanwhile, PI is getting tired of having his head in the sand all the time... :lol:

Jim

Naw Rockford, I keep my head out of the sand. I'm just not a dried up, angry, grudge carrying old fart that tries to look for every negative angle against his former co-workers while overlooking the other sides errors.
 
Jim,


You never really get it. The pulse of the east pilot is money. Plain and simple. LOA 93 pay restoration will provide that. I told you this a long time ago.

Addington.......................we spanked all over you on that one. WIN EAST

LOA 93 Pay Restoration.....^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pending

PBGC law suit...................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pending

MDA...............................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Pending

Attrition..........................25 new hires per month starting Jan. 2012 WIN EAST

Going forward every new hire in the east will always vote with the east pilot group. They will enjoy rapid advancement to the left seat and eventually left seat on the wide body. New hires will be looking at the quickest way to the money trail. All trails lead to the east! That you can take to the bank.

Hate
Attrition: For 2012 the east has 9 reaching 65. You say the company is going to replace 25 a month or 300 per year. Does that make sense to anyone? Does anyone believe that this cheap company is going to add an additional 290 pilots to the payroll for no reason? Remember what you tell us. The west is stealing flying from the east. We need to maintain min block hours and they just dropped more west flying. That means more east flying coming west.

Oh well. Keep dreaming and listening to those crew room rumors.

BTW when was the last thing that happened in the MDA case? Is there even a trial date set yet? Pending = dead case

PBGC last few updates seemed a little less confident then when they began. From the PBGC committee.

We are committed to finding the truth and hopefully a palatable resolution to this devastation that has occurred to this pilot group.

Palatable? That does not sound like someone going to jail and the east getting your pension back. That sounds like we looked at it and maybe some errors were made but nothing big and there will be no money. But as long as you "feel " better about it worth the $3-4 million I guess.
What is the opposite of not ripe?

ARGUMENT
I. BECAUSE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR CLAIMS AGAINST THE
PLAN’S FORMER FIDUCIARIES HAS RUN, GRANTING USAPA’S REQUEST
FOR A REPLACEMENT TRUSTEE WOULD BE FUTILE.

Could it be that all of the other smart lawyers see that this has past and you guys wasted 3-4 million dollars on a case you could not bring? Maybe wilder will write a blog about that. He could have told you it would get thrown out.
 
Attrition: For 2012 the east has 9 reaching 65. You say the company is going to replace 25 a month or 300 per year. Does that make sense to anyone? Does anyone believe that this cheap company is going to add an additional 290 pilots to the payroll for no reason?

Check Airmen have been told to expect 25 newhires a month starting in January. Also said that newhires would be coming to Bus and 73 fleet. Don't know if that is all on the east or both.

25 a month was for "foreseeable future" what ever that means around this place! 🙂
 
Check Airmen have been told to expect 25 newhires a month starting in January. Also said that newhires would be coming to Bus and 73 fleet. Don't know if that is all on the east or both.

25 a month was for "foreseeable future" what ever that means around this place! 🙂

Sure hope your right. I'm still waiting for that other check arimen prediction - flat panel screens on the DC-9's :blink:
 
Just two more points...where is the money going to come from to pay for the new agreements with special counsel Sarah Diane McShea and the accounting firm of Holtz, Rubenstein and Reminick? How will USAPA's supporters (which is not me) deal with losing Seham if his contract is terminated for alleged wrong doing?
 
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