US Pilots Labor Discussion

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Well, at least numbnuts has moved on from posting the rico complaint over and over and over again. God only knows what he will be posting over and over and over again in another year or two.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

alpa findings.

"Consider during 2006, the East operation reported a profit of $474 million while the West operation
reported a loss of ($33 million). For the first six months of 2007, the East operation reported a $297
million profit while the West lost another ($8 million)."

"Subject: 2007 Profit Sharing
Source: Council 41
WHEREAS the company has reported a 2007 profit, and
WHEREAS the AAA Pilots have been working under a Bankruptcy contract since exiting Bankruptcy
and merging with AWA in 2005, and
WHEREAS as of the start of 2008 the Pilots of US Airways have yet to receive pay parity, or parity in
working conditions, and
WHEREAS the US Airways Pilots retain the rights to no less than 36% of the total profit sharing pool
both in LOA 93 and the Transition Agreement
WHEREAS the 2005 Transition Agreement states in VII C 3. That the “Profit Sharing will be paid to
each Pilot who was employed by US Airways or America West during the year in which the profit was
earned based on a formula for distribution to be determined by the Association”.
THERFORE BE IT RESOLVED that ALPA E&FA provided the total hourly pay dollar differential for
2007 between the AWA Pilots and the AAA Pilots, and
THERFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the profit pool be allocated first to the AAA Pilots up
to the pay parity differential between the AWA and AAA Pilots, and
THERFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if there is a delay in released of the profit pool, the
profit pool be held in escrow compounding interest until the Association approves the profit pool
distribution, and
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that pilots who have been frozen at J4J carriers will be
included in the distribution pool, and
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that these J4J Pilots will participate based on the first
month in 2007 of their recall and all subsequent months until their release from freeze to US Airways
from the participating carrier, and
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the AAA Pilots be balloted for their Approval of the
MEC’s 2007 Methodology, and
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2/17/2008
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the AAA MEC, consistent with previous allocation methodology for
stock and stock options, will distribute our portion of the profit sharing pool according to the following
manner:
The profit sharing pool is to be distributed on an equal per capita basis to all pilots who were
active US Airways, Inc. pilots, during the measurement period commencing January 1, 2007
through December 31, 2007 inclusive."

BOING BOY , YOUR ON DECK!

 

[BoeingBoy]

JIM, SWA Revenue in PHX, were on the losing end, BTW, my son is a LUV employee in accounting! KMA! MM!

Yeah, and Wilder is your next door neighbor, $eham is your father-in-law, the SCOTUS justices are your aunts and uncles, etc. So you can spout off all you want and never be held accountable cause you just say "So and so told me". Well, guess who told me that you just make stuff up as you go? They're very close to you, BTW...

Jim

 

[apollo]

Well, at least numbnuts has moved on from posting the rico complaint over and over and over again. God only knows what he will be posting over and over and over again in another year or two.

I do have a lot of information surrounding your west pilot group walking away from wye river, be patient.

 

[767jetz]

Without a merger you were DOA ! FACT! Good luck! odds furloughs at UAL year end!

Awwwe... Poor poor MM. Still wishing others will experience your unique form of career disaster. 🙁

DOA, huh?

I guess Wall Street missed the memo on UA's pending CH7 while actually profitable.

The delusions you come up with are truly entertaining. True, they can furlough at UA after December. News flash, you can be furloughed too. Any airline can reduce capacity and furlough. CO's protection ends with a new contract.

CO pilots are not in control of the JCBA. The negotiating committee and NMB are. Furloughed pilots who get hired on the CO side maintain their pre-merger UA seniority from the PID snapshot. So they will return to their rightful position after SLI. You really should do your homework before barfing from your pie hole.

By the way, flying is actually being ADDED to the UA side. Newark - Zurich to be flown by JFK 767 UA crews next month as well as EWR - SXM. JFK 767 base becoming internationally qualified once again as of December for additional international flying coming next year. LCA's are currently doing route quals. Just what one would expect with the coming downsizing and furloughs you predict. Yup, sounds like you really got a handle on it though. NOT! 😛

You know, I really enjoy shattering your fragile little world of imagination! As you were, my syntax challenged friend.

 

[BoeingBoy]

BOING BOY , YOUR ON DECK!

Me? I'm not the one that supposedly hates everything ALPA then quotes them to prove some imaginary point. That'd be your friend Nosuma-pollo. Interesting line-up of friends he has - 4 of the 5 make all sorts of claims and refuse to provide evidence for any of them. Quite a fantasy world you've constructed.

Jim

 

[apollo]

Awwwe... Poor poor MM. Still wishing others will experience your unique form of career disaster. 🙁

DOA, huh?

I guess Wall Street missed the memo on UA's pending CH7 while actually profitable.

The delusions you come up with are truly entertaining. True, they can furlough at UA after December. News flash, you can be furloughed too. Any airline can reduce capacity and furlough. CO's protection ends with a new contract.

CO pilots are not in control of the JCBA. The negotiating committee and NMB are. Furloughed pilots who get hired on the CO side maintain their pre-merger UA seniority from the PID snapshot. So they will return to their rightful position after SLI. You really should do your homework before barfing from your pie hole.

By the way, flying is actually being ADDED to the UA side. Newark - Zurich to be flown by JFK 767 UA crews next month as well as EWR - SXM. JFK 767 base becoming internationally qualified once again as of December for additional international flying coming next year. LCA's are currently doing route quals. Just what one would expect with the coming downsizing and furloughs you predict. Yup, sounds like you really got a handle on it though. NOT! 😛

You know, I really enjoy shattering your fragile little world of imagination! As you were, my syntax challenged friend.

Your latest ual alpa update is not encouraging for you. No progress, tsk tsk.

"ual Joint Negotiating Committee Update

The Joint Negotiating Committee and management met in Boston this week under National Mediation Board supervision. Utilizing the process recommended by the mediator, the JNC communicated to management potential concepts for closing the large philosophical gaps in scheduling. Management is currently considering the suggested solutions and has indicated that they will have feedback from their subject matter experts next week. On Thursday, a counter to a Fatigue Risk Management System (FRMS) Letter of Agreement was passed to management.

The JNC will meet next week in Boston. Work will continue on the other open JCBA sections that we currently possess. The JNC and management are scheduled to be in NMB-mediated negotiations during the following weeks: October 25-27, November 1-3, November 8-10, November 28-30, December 6-8 and December 13-15.

As always, please stay connected to the process by reading updates from the MEC and your local Council representatives.



Jay Heppner Dave Owens
UAL-MEC Negotiating Committee CAL-MEC Negotiating Committee"

 

[BoeingBoy]

The JNC and management are scheduled to be in NMB-mediated negotiations during the following weeks: October 25-27, November 1-3, November 8-10, November 28-30, December 6-8 and December 13-15.

And how many sessions does the USAPA NAC have scheduled during that time.... It's sad watching someone so desperate to prove something but be unable to... 😛

Jim

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Me? I'm not the one that supposedly hates everything ALPA then quotes them to prove some imaginary point. That'd be your friend Nosuma-pollo. Interesting line-up of friends he has - 4 of the 5 make all sorts of claims and refuse to provide evidence for any of them. Quite a fantasy world you've constructed.

Jim

JIMBO, Word Up I work another aviation job, no 65 retirement issue, Get a life, the group I am in contact with will, never even consider NIC, not only, they will turn down any contrct with it.Bottom Line DOA! LOA93 hit's game over!, WORD, OVER!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Awwwe... Poor poor MM. Still wishing others will experience your unique form of career disaster. 🙁

DOA, huh?

I guess Wall Street missed the memo on UA's pending CH7 while actually profitable.

The delusions you come up with are truly entertaining. True, they can furlough at UA after December. News flash, you can be furloughed too. Any airline can reduce capacity and furlough. CO's protection ends with a new contract.

CO pilots are not in control of the JCBA. The negotiating committee and NMB are. Furloughed pilots who get hired on the CO side maintain their pre-merger UA seniority from the PID snapshot. So they will return to their rightful position after SLI. You really should do your homework before barfing from your pie hole.

By the way, flying is actually being ADDED to the UA side. Newark - Zurich to be flown by JFK 767 UA crews next month as well as EWR - SXM. JFK 767 base becoming internationally qualified once again as of December for additional international flying coming next year. LCA's are currently doing route quals. Just what one would expect with the coming downsizing and furloughs you predict. Yup, sounds like you really got a handle on it though. NOT! 😛

You know, I really enjoy shattering your fragile little world of imagination! As you were, my syntax challenged friend.

Word Up, my brother might be your next Capt! DULLES RIGHT!

 

[767jetz]

Your latest ual alpa update is not encouraging for you. No progress, tsk tsk.

Oh Nos, outing yourself again I see, with your daily UA updates.

I just love how badly it burns your a$$ that you don't work for UA and never will! Still fantasizing about UA's demise, huh? Boy you really must have been jilted something fierce! Who else is in your circle jerk besides MM, BS, and luv?

BTW, why have you been hiding your Claxon profile? Scared? Banished? Trying to preserve your ratings?

Rest assured UA will have a contract and SLI LONG before you are off loa 93 or see a DOH list. Unless of course APA has a chance to hand you your a$$! Now THAT'S a side show I'd pay good money to watch. 😉 Can't wait to see you come apart at the seams when you get the bad news from Kasher.

 

[767jetz]

Word Up, my brother might be your next Capt! DULLES RIGHT!

Word up???? Did you really just say "word up?" If I were your brother I'd smack you up side the head for embarrassing the family name. Seriously, your writing skills are bad enough. Who says "word up" anymore?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Oh Nos, outing yourself again I see, with your daily UA updates.

I just love how badly it burns your a$$ that you don't work for UA and never will! Still fantasizing about UA's demise, huh? Boy you really must have been jilted something fierce! Who else is in your circle jerk besides MM, BS, and luv?

BTW, why have you been hiding your Claxon profile? Scared? Banished? Trying to preserve your ratings?

Rest assured UA will have a contract and SLI LONG before you are off loa 93 or see a DOH list. Unless of course APA has a chance to hand you your a$$! Now THAT'S a side show I'd pay good money to watch. 😉 Can't wait to see you come apart at the seams when you get the bad news from Kasher.

BAD NEWS FROM KASHER, how's that FORD FIESTA, in your screen running! MM! YOU BRAGGED BY YEARS END, Where's The Contract! ?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Word up???? Did you really just say "word up?" If I were your brother I'd smack you up side the head for embarrassing the family name. Seriously, your writing skills are bad enough. Who says "word up" anymore?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA&ob=av2e

 

[BoeingBoy]

JIMBO, Word Up I work another aviation job, no 65 retirement issue, Get a life, the group I am in contact with will, never even consider NIC, not only, they will turn down any contrct with it.Bottom Line DOA! LOA93 hit's game over!, WORD, OVER!

Yeah, yeah - lots of bluster but nothing else. Does that "group" you're in "contact with" fly black helicopters or trail behind a comet in their starship? How long have you been claiming that Nic is DOA and USAPA can't even get to company of officially acknowledge receipt of that DOH list... 😛

Jim