US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nic4us]

His entire life is a lie.

Care to elaborate?

Or is tha against your scab code of ethics?

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

... can LCC be held liable to the West pilots for violating their TA contractual obligations?

I have passed this information on to those interested in the ninth.

The one Federal Judge asked, what "TA contractual obligations" are you talking about? I agree. what exactly are you talking about?

 

[fodase]

For you law savvy guys, what are the chances this will be a summary judgment?

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Care to elaborate?

Or is tha against your scab code of ethics?

I assume you were in such a hurry to post you forgot that the word "that" requires a letter "t" at the end.

Jack London was an author I read early in my live and I was quite moved by his stories. It is why I don't carry a gun. I don't need to. His definition of "scab" is quite succinct and definitely encompasses the west pilots, maybe not all, but certainly the mentality promoted by those like you.

The person in question. Every assertion by him has pretty much be proved otherwise. Here, I follow the rules. Not your "code of non-ethics", certainly.

 

[Move2CLT]

East pilots will sue on what grounds?

 

[nic4us]

I assume you were in such a hurry to post you forgot that the word "that" requires a letter "t" at the end.

Jack London was an author I read early in my live and I was quite moved by his stories. It is why I don't carry a gun. I don't need to. His definition of "scab" is quite succinct and definitely encompasses the west pilots, maybe not all, but certainly the mentality promoted by those like you.

The person in question. Every assertion by him has pretty much be proved otherwise. Here, I follow the rules. Not your "code of non-ethics", certainly.

I assume in your hurry to post, you decided to ignore the fact that I called you out on your "his entire life is a lie" comment.

Guess it is against your scab code of ethics.

Oh...BTW scab, in your hurry to post you used the word "live", I assume you meant "life" , as in sealclubber LIVES the LIFE of a scab!!!

 

[Beancounter]

I have passed this information on to those interested in the ninth.

The one Federal Judge asked, what "TA contractual obligations" are you talking about? I agree. what exactly are you talking about?

You hear little voices in your head don't you? I'm guessing temper outbursts too. My advice seek medical help. No, seriously, seek help and spend less time on the computer.

 

[Move2CLT]

You hear little voices in your head don't you? I'm guessing temper outbursts too. My advice seek medical help. No, seriously, seek help and spend less time on the computer.

LMAO.

 

[CallawayGolf]

East pilots will sue on what grounds?

If USAPA presented a Non-NIC list that resulted in no DFR being filed by the west because it was more beneficial than the NIC, then those benefits could only come at the expense of the east being in a worse position than they were with the NIC. If that theoretical were to happen, the east would have every right to file a DFR claim. Suddenly the NIC is dead and not binding talk we hear today would become the NIC is the list. Not that they would start to think the NIC was great, but they would now admit that aDFR claim is only possible with the NIC.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Oh...BTW scab, in your hurry to post you used the word "live", I assume you meant "life" , as in sealclubber LIVES the LIFE of a scab!!!

Just following my hero, the scab. I would not want to show him up.

I guess it will be up to us to keep you from scabbing.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

You hear little voices in your head don't you? I'm guessing temper outbursts too. My advice seek medical help. No, seriously, seek help and spend less time on the computer.

Go back to your cubicle. Your padded walls seem to comfort you. No strait-jacket for you tonight. I promise.

 

[cynic]

If USAPA presented a Non-NIC list that resulted in no DFR being filed by the west because it was more beneficial than the NIC, then those benefits could only come at the expense of the east being in a worse position than they were with the NIC. If that theoretical were to happen, the east would have every right to file a DFR claim. Suddenly the NIC is dead and not binding talk we hear today would become the NIC is the list. Not that they would start to think the NIC was great, but they would now admit that aDFR claim is only possible with the NIC.

Exactly. I only hope that Judge Silver spells it all out in the ruling, whatever the ruling may be. We need to put the integration in the rear view mirror and move forward.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Leonidas Update: November 2, 2011

Today, Judge Silver granted class certification for the West Pilots. You can read the full order here. For the purposes of the company’s declaratory action case (and only the declaratory action case), the West pilots are now collectively and officially represented as a class. The class representatives are the same six pilots named in the Addington litigation:

Don Addington
John Bostic
Mark Burman
AC Iranpour
Roger Velez
Steve Wargocki

Once again, these six pilots represent the tip of the spear for all West pilots. We are confident they will represent us accurately and professionally in the same manner they had before. We cannot think of a finer group of people for this important job than these six proven individuals.

Ladies and gentlemen, our fight continues. Make no mistake: every West pilot, and unionized airline employees everywhere, stand to suffer great harm should USAPA’s efforts to evade the binding arbitration ultimately prevail. It is important to remember that none of us would still be in the fight if not for the commitment of these six pilots AND the generous financial contributions from the West pilot group. It is clear that none of our adversaries expected the courage, perseverance and unity demonstrated by the former AWA Pilots in our fight for justice.

We will have a more detailed analysis of the class certification order in the near future.

That is all for now. Fight on.

Sincerely,

Leonidas, LLC

To quote a line from "Pulp Fiction"....feel that sting? That's pride f***ing with you.

USAPA, one failure after another. Enjoy your constant losses..everyone else sure does.... 😛

 

[GuntherA320]

To quote a line from "Pulp Fiction"....feel that sting? That's pride f***ing with you.

So you're saying Leonidas is Marsellus Wallace and USAPA is Butch the boxer I see.

That was what Marsellus told Butch before the boxing match. If i remember correctly, not long after he uttered those words, Marsellus lost his money on the boxing match, took an a$$ pounding, and it was Butch that ended up saving him from being murdered.

😀

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

If USAPA presented a Non-NIC list that resulted in no DFR being filed by the west because it was more beneficial than the NIC, then those benefits could only come at the expense of the east being in a worse position than they were with the NIC.

Please explain. I have to admit you lost me.

How, exactly, could the east be worse off than with the nic?

The original TA demanded that, with the "nic", there had to be a "merged proposal", separately ratified by each group, east and west, in order to consider itself complete. Rationally most consider the ALPA defined TA a lost cause. If so, where is the "nic"?

While DOH may be gone for a few technical difficulties, I would presume what was presented at Wye River, LOS with conditions and restrictions, would be my bottom line.