US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Beancounter]

Um. In order to get pay parity you need to get it from management not the west. So of course you have to bring them into it.

Are you really that ...

Why is it usapa and the east have not been able to get parity for the last 4 years since you have been in charge?

I'll take stupid moves by the east for $500 Alex.

Seriously, It's because they let emotions and the fantasy of a DOH(staple job) control their actions. It's led to bad decision, after bad decision, after bad decision.

Their own egos won't let them step back and say, "wow maybe we're in the wrong and we f#$%ed up."

This doesn't apply to every east pilot. There are some intelligent pilots on the east, they're just unfortunately not in charge. What you have instead is some arrogant putz with the world's worst case of little man syndrome.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Um. In order to get pay parity you need to get it from management not the west. So of course you have to bring them into it.

Are you really that ...

Rhetorical questions too hard for you?

Why is it usapa and the east have not been able to get parity for the last 4 years since you have been in charge?

Um, Mr. Parker is enjoying his bonus based on how much money he is pulling in? and, therefore, will not negotiate in a meaningful way? He loves exploiting the differences and loves bragging to the board how much money he, personally, is responsible for co-opting from the revenue stream of this particular cash cow? Stop me. I am laughing too hard.

There is only one way to force negotiations but until the west stops fondling their useless lottery ticket in such a seemingly pornographic manner, not much will change.

 

[A320 Driver]

You gifted us profit sharing? How is that dreamer? You tell management to give it to us and then you forgot to give yourself parity? LMAO!

No, we got that on our own despite you.

Gifted. You're such a jokester.

Since our profit sharing was reduced to accommodate your "share" of the profit sharing, how is it that you think that you negotiated a concession to the East contract??

Easy answer...YOU DIDN'T. The East MEC GAVE that away trying to buy peace in the neighborhood. They were fools.

Driver :angry:

 

[mrbreeze]

You've done a great job staying off the board. Try to keep it up.

Well, unlike you, some of us are productive at this job and actually produce something, instead of sitting on our butts.

breeze

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

The East MEC GAVE that away trying to buy peace in the neighborhood. They were fools.

That is a major reason why ALPA was dumped.

The same fools who, using fear and intimidation "led" the 53% to vote "for" LOA 93. The same fools who gave away the DB plan. The same idiots who demanded a "loyalty oath" not to the line pilot but to ALPA.

The valid question is, why did the pilots suffer such fools for more than a couple of Friedman units? uh, years.

 

[nic4us]

Rhetorical questions too hard for you?



Um, Mr. Parker is enjoying his bonus based on how much money he is pulling in? and, therefore, will not negotiate in a meaningful way? He loves exploiting the differences and loves bragging to the board how much money he, personally, is responsible for co-opting from the revenue stream of this particular cash cow? Stop me. I am laughing too hard.

There is only one way to force negotiations but until the west stops fondling their useless lottery ticket in such a seemingly pornographic manner, not much will change.

Actually, for usapa, there is no way to force negotiations.

You are another clueless usapa supporter with no idea of the position you are in.

PS. The Nic is the only "accepted" system seniority list at LCC. Get used to that fact.

 

[Res Judicata]

That is a major reason why ALPA was dumped.

The same fools who, using fear and intimidation "led" the 53% to vote "for" LOA 93. The same fools who gave away the DB plan. The same idiots who demanded a "loyalty oath" not to the line pilot but to ALPA.

The valid question is, why did the pilots suffer such fools for more than a couple of Friedman units? uh, years.

Is it the same idiotic 53% that actually voted for USAPA? The wheels are absolutely flying off that cart.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Is it the same idiotic 53% that actually voted for USAPA? The wheels are absolutely flying off that cart.

I am pretty sure it was much more than that. Those original folks who voted for USAPA were the proactive ones, not the few sheep that regularly call EF.

 

[Res Judicata]

I am pretty sure it was much more than that.

No. It wasn't. USAPA barely made it. If that election was held today, USAPA wouldn't get 10%

 

[nic4us]

Since our profit sharing was reduced to accommodate your "share" of the profit sharing, how is it that you think that you negotiated a concession to the East contract??

Easy answer...YOU DIDN'T. The East MEC GAVE that away trying to buy peace in the neighborhood. They were fools.

Driver :angry:

The bottom line fact of the matter is without the West, you would have had no profit to share.

The "fools", would have been complete idiots to hold up anything in the TA, because it was those "fools" who were faced with career destruction.

Now, 6 years after the fact, after the West hired your furloughees in lieu of our hiring pool that had interviewed and been awaiting classes, and the West gave up its section 6 rights in order to persue a joint contract, you clowns act like you gifted the West something???

The east walked from the table, and found there is no table for them to return to, and they are too stupid to realize the consequences of their own actions.

PS. You are lucky to even have LOA93.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Actually, for usapa, there is no way to force negotiations.

I would say that until Mr. Parker wants to, everyone will have to wait. It is the nature of the game. Learn it. The experience will serve you well.

 

[Move2CLT]

There is only one way to force negotiations but until the west stops fondling their useless lottery ticket in such a seemingly pornographic manner, not much will change.

Nonsense.

Until you stop chasing your dream of DOH, not much will change.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

No. It wasn't. USAPA barely made it. If that election was held today, USAPA wouldn't get 10%

Got the numbers? Pretty certain you are wrong. Remember the rules, rule.

Otherwise your silly speculation is duly noted. We are working to ensure a greater than before percentage should a re-election be in the offing. Mr. Parker would love the turmoil and delay that would ensue from another union certification.

As long as we are speculating, I would think another seven years or 1.5 DUIs. Give or take.

 

[Res Judicata]

Our resident idiots!!!!!!

Hardly. They have figured out what we out West have always known. They're stupendously slow learners but a heck of a lot faster than you.

USLAPPY is ENDLESSLY entertaining. I love it.

 

[A320 Driver]

The bottom line fact of the matter is without the West, you would have had no profit to share.

The "fools", would have been complete idiots to hold up anything in the TA, because it was those "fools" who were faced with career destruction.

Now, 6 years after the fact, after the West hired your furloughees in lieu of our hiring pool that had interviewed and been awaiting classes, and the West gave up its section 6 rights in order to persue a joint contract, you clowns act like you gifted the West something???

The east walked from the table, and found there is no table for them to return to, and they are too stupid to realize the consequences of their own actions.

PS. You are lucky to even have LOA93.

Not worthy to shine your shoes, is that it?