US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Rookie Jr]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Honest question: Do you see a possibility of USAPA not appealing all the way to the SCOTUS? Because that's where I see it ending and if there are other thoughts on this I'd like to hear them and not just have shots taken at me for asking. I realize that often questions on here are not really questions.

The judge will provide an answer on what the company's obligations or liabilities are regarding the transition agreement and specifically pertaining to the seniority list. Whatever answer she gives will be it and the company will use it.

If she tells the company that they are free to negotiate seniority with ucrapa without fear of inclusion in a DFR (quite doubtful) that's what they will do.

If she tells them that they signed an agreement and are obligated to its terms (most likely) then the company will turn to the east and say "the devil made me do it. We're obligated to the Nic. Please don't blame me". Then we will move on.

It is obvious the company now wants to settle this (merger anyone?) and they will do what is in their best interest any way they can.

If ucrapa doesn't get its way they can appeal to SCOTUS, Jesus Christ, Buddah, Yaweh, anwhere they want. It just won't matter.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Just like Valerie Hayes. No one has heard from her because the company told her to STFU or lose your job.

Who is Valerie Hayes?

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

That came from an eastie and I appreciate your confidence in not questioning my credibility. But I have my east sources to thank for that.

Your "east sources", a secretary? Does he fly a mop for a living?

I am very familiar with what is going on and you, and your orc "friend" are not even close.

 

[Rookie Jr]

Who is Valerie Hayes?

The captain removed from company property for improperly handling a situation regarding maintenance and a flight to europe.

 

[Move2CLT]

When that lava finally hits your feet it probably won't be so funny. A little shortsighted, IMHO.

Not really. This was expected.

You guys haven't been successful at anything.

 

[nic4us]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Honest question: Do you see a possibility of USAPA not appealing all the way to the SCOTUS? Because that's where I see it ending and if there are other thoughts on this I'd like to hear them and not just have shots taken at me for asking. I realize that often questions on here are not really questions.

If Silver rules in a manner not favorable to usapa, then usapa is done. They can appeal, but there are two problems with that,,,

1. They can appeal Silver's decision, but they can't appeal the company's position.
2. usapa would literally be going to the 9th and saying, "hey, 5 federal judges have now unanimously determined that what we are trying to do is a DFR, can you listen to us one more time and see if we can make that 8 federal judges"?

I think the much more likely scenario is that we end up in a card drive lead by east pilots to toss usapa to the curb, in an attempted to start everything all over again.

When merger speculation is thrown into the mix, it is likely we would be in a merger situation prior to any usapa appeal, if they were even granted one.

 

[Move2CLT]

Who is Valerie Hayes?

It's Wells. My bad.

 

[nic4us]

Who is Valerie Hayes?

I thought her name was Wells????

 

[Pi brat]

The captain removed from company property for improperly handling a situation regarding maintenance and a flight to europe.

Be careful, uhaul go the name wrong. I hope there isn't a Valerie H. around angry that her name was soiled. ;-)

 

[Phoenix]

The company openly stated that it believes it is obligated to use the Nic. Final and binding arbitration and a TA obligates them to do so. Why would the judge overturn this? She gets it. That's obvious. She will rule on #'s 1 and 2 leaving 3 moot. If she can't then you will have your chance. I believe she will and this mess will be over with.

The company will finally tell the east that the Nic is it and we will move on. Any retribution you may have planned will be squashed by the injunction against you. Parker no longer needs to placate you.

Common sense, no special wink.
I am not worried about the lava hitting my feet, but you should be.

The "final and binding arbitration" has what relevance to the company? They were not parties to it. And as for the TA, it plainly sates the rights of the barging parties to freely negotiate. If the company holds to a position on Sec 22 then by all means they are entitled to hold that bargaining position.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

The VP is sleeping with the help.

That dog is sleeping with which secretary? Damn.

Is that like in the way that Kirby intimidates underlings to sleep with him? I hope he is using a condom. We all know how that can turn out...

 

[Pi brat]

If Silver rules in a manner not favorable to usapa, then usapa is done. They can appeal, but there are two problems with that,,,

1. They can appeal Silver's decision, but they can't appeal the company's position.
2. usapa would literally be going to the 9th and saying, "hey, 5 federal judges have now unanimously determined that what we are trying to do is a DFR, can you listen to us one more time and see if we can make that 8 federal judges"?

I think the much more likely scenario is that we end up in a card drive lead by east pilots to toss usapa to the curb, in an attempted to start everything all over again.

When merger speculation is thrown into the mix, it is likely we would be in a merger situation prior to any usapa appeal, if they were even granted one.

Okay, thanks for the input.

 

[Phoenix]

I thought her name was Wells????

Now that you have established yourself as smarter than the other West posters, what does that say?

 

[Move2CLT]

That dog is sleeping with which secretary? Damn.

Is that like in the way that Kirby sleeps with people who work for him? I hope he is using a condom. We all know how that can turn out....

Did Kirby send out fake emails?

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

The captain removed from company property for improperly handling a situation regarding maintenance and a flight to europe.

and that name was Hayes? I see five Hayes, none on international.

Improperly? What was done that was improper?