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Phoenix said:
It is ironic that those who stop their ears and only hear "NOT RIPE!!!" don't even have the stomach to see that the 9th made it clear under what condition it will be ripe..... only after negotiations are complete and a contract is ratified. Aside from the obvious fact that the injunction was dismissed, no longer directing the Nic to be the USAPA proposal, even if USAPA sent out a contract for ratification, sans Nic, even then no injunction would be attainable, because it would still not be ripe. Anyone can sue to their heart's content after ratification, and maybe even win damages. it is not about ripeness now, it is about bargaining. If the courts decide to continue to judicially intervene during bargaining, when the 9th wouldn't even venture there, then they will only multiply the many lawyers who will have more extensions to their already long and prosperous jobs.
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Are you getting your legal advice from Benny over at LA LAW?
 
prechilill said:
Hope you will be home with them like our newly- resigned NAC members are this year.
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I know what you mean. Taking a few weeks off on the old flight pay loss gravy train after quitting is a long tradition both at USAPA and ALPA, but usually reserved for those who have done years of hard work. Pat "crazy" Day and Manny (who I don't know) were only put on that committee as stooges for Cleary to eventually dump the current Chairman, Diorio. Word is Cleary spent an afternoon in the USAPA offices helping them write their "shocking" resignation letter. Go figure.

NAC parked soon. Cleary blames Diorio.

But I digress, and promise to leave this forum (barring anymore "shocking news") for the rest of the year.

Best to all of you, Merry Christmas.

RR
 
Reed Richards said:
I know what you mean. Taking a few weeks off on the old flight pay loss gravy train after quitting is a long tradition both at USAPA and ALPA, but usually reserved for those who have done years of hard work. Pat "crazy" Day and Manny (who I don't know) were only put on that committee as stooges for Cleary to eventually dump the current Chairman, Diorio. Word is Cleary spent an afternoon in the USAPA offices helping them write their "shocking" resignation letter. Go figure.

NAC parked soon. Cleary blames Diorio.

But I digress, and promise to leave this forum (barring anymore "shocking news") for the rest of the year.

Best to all of you, Merry Christmas.

RR
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Don't forget your Cleary jpeg. Click on the link.
 
Interesting Reed. Certainly no teamwork in USAPA leadership. We need to work together but I don't think much is possible in the near term.
 
Times have changed:


Conversation with an Eastie

I have heard about a few of these conversations but this is the first one with which I have been involved.

I was picking up my release in CLT this morning when an east CA who was non-reving in back came up and introduced himself.

He said that he was an AOL contributor and that most of the rhetoric we hear is generated by a very vocal, very loud minority. He complained that these "idiots" had cost him a lot of money though he indicated he was well aware of the part played in our little drama by Doug Parker et all.

We went back and forth for a bit when I opined that I expected little contractual movement until we merged again. This is where it got weird. He said: "Maybe in the next merger we can put most of the east on the bottom of the combined list where they belong."

I have never before heard of an east guy saying anything even remotely as radical.
 
Move2CLT said:
Times have changed:


Conversation with an Eastie

I have heard about a few of these conversations but this is the first one with which I have been involved.

I was picking up my release in CLT this morning when an east CA who was non-reving in back came up and introduced himself.

He said that he was an AOL contributor and that most of the rhetoric we hear is generated by a very vocal, very loud minority. He complained that these "idiots" had cost him a lot of money though he indicated he was well aware of the part played in our little drama by Doug Parker et all.

We went back and forth for a bit when I opined that I expected little contractual movement until we merged again. This is where it got weird. He said: "Maybe in the next merger we can put most of the east on the bottom of the combined list where they belong."

I have never before heard of an east guy saying anything even remotely as radical.
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How do you know an eastie is lying ???

His lips are moving !!!

cv
 
Move2CLT said:
Times have changed:


Conversation with an Eastie

I have heard about a few of these conversations but this is the first one with which I have been involved.

I was picking up my release in CLT this morning when an east CA who was non-reving in back came up and introduced himself.

He said that he was an AOL contributor and that most of the rhetoric we hear is generated by a very vocal, very loud minority. He complained that these "idiots" had cost him a lot of money though he indicated he was well aware of the part played in our little drama by Doug Parker et all.

We went back and forth for a bit when I opined that I expected little contractual movement until we merged again. This is where it got weird. He said: "Maybe in the next merger we can put most of the east on the bottom of the combined list where they belong."

I have never before heard of an east guy saying anything even remotely as radical.

Your post reeks of BULLSHIT!!!

NICDOA
NPJB
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Move2CLT, on 19 December 2011 - 02:20 AM, said:
Times have changed:


Conversation with an Eastie

I have heard about a few of these conversations but this is the first one with which I have been involved.

I was picking up my release in CLT this morning when an east CA who was non-reving in back came up and introduced himself.

He said that he was an AOL contributor and that most of the rhetoric we hear is generated by a very vocal, very loud minority. He complained that these "idiots" had cost him a lot of money though he indicated he was well aware of the part played in our little drama by Doug Parker et all.

We went back and forth for a bit when I opined that I expected little contractual movement until we merged again. This is where it got weird. He said: "Maybe in the next merger we can put most of the east on the bottom of the combined list where they belong."

I have never before heard of an east guy saying anything even remotely as radical.
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Your post reeks of BULLSHIT!!!

NICDOA
NPJB
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Even if it is true that an Eastie was showing that his a$$ was chapped by the elimination of ALPA (Peace be Upon Them), and even if he is cutting off his nose to spite his face by donating to AOL (Peace be Upon Them), then it serves to show that USAPA is doing exactly what they were elected to do (and his a$$ is still chapped). I don't begrudge any man to cast his money wherever he wants, but please forgive me if I yawn when the ALPA apologists start to preach on the street corner with a tin cup and cardboard sign in their hand. 😀
 
Phoenix said:
Move2CLT, on 19 December 2011 - 02:20 AM, said:
Times have changed:




Even if it is true that an Eastie was showing that his a$$ was chapped by the elimination of ALPA (Peace be Upon Them), and even if he is cutting off his nose to spite his face by donating to AOL (Peace be Upon Them), then it serves to show that USAPA is doing exactly what they were elected to do (and his a$$ is still chapped). I don't begrudge any man to cast his money wherever he wants, but please forgive me if I yawn when the ALPA apologists start to preach on the street corner with a tin cup and cardboard sign in their hand. 😀
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What was USAPA elected "to do"? What metric does one use to determin a degree of success?
 
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