US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Missfit]

The utter and absolutel arrogance of this statement assures me that you are the "poser" I had assumed you to be. Quit pretending to be someone's wife, admit you were a furloughed fo when the acquisition occurred. You are a real treat! Amusing as hell but a treat just the same.

PS: Again, no facts. Opinion and emotion projectile vomited in no particular direction.

I find you to be a real hoot yourself!

You have no clue.
You think I grabbed a female moniker signed up 6 years ago so I could play the charade of being an East pilots wife? Wow that was some planning on my part...
My husband has flown in the left seat of every piece equipment on the property except for two and the two he hasn't, aren't the wide bodies. But thanks for playing!

 

[BoeingBoy]

You have no clue.

The usual East argument - don't like the rule so it doesn't apply to them. Like not liking laws - "I was driving the car but it's the government's fault that I was speeding, ran that stop sign, caused a wreck, etc - they passed those laws, not me, and the manufacturer built the car that can all those things so it's their fault."

Jim

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Then what? If the companies case gets tossed (I agree BTW) what does the company do? Are we closer to a contract? The company keeps saying that the court will decide. What if the court chooses NOT to decide. It is then Parkers decision to make. Use Nicolau or not.


What does Parker do? Use Nicolau or DOH? Read the companies filings with a bit of unbiased and let us know.

They will use what the union presents to them. They already said that they will. Nothing biased about that.

Once this insane attempt to drag the process out gets terminated, the company will be off the hook for a west DFR (as if they somehow could sue the company for such a thing), and USAPA will FINALLY be able to negotiate a contract.

That's the reality. The Nic is dead already. The union cannot present it. It's against the C&BLs.

 

[mikey60]

This is a perfect quote. Sounds a lot like slotting to me. Not a bad deal. Comparable job. Better pay. If US had liquidated, the east would not have been treated so well. They would get new hire jobs at new hire pay.

Art had asked what a merger would look like if there were no unions. This probably sums it up pretty well.

...."IF"The biggest two letter word in the dictionary.

 

[mikey60]

Making progress are we? This conversation reminds me of Washington DC, alot gets said, alot of posturing, not much accomplished, its is exhausting to follow. I've made my share of idiotic posts, I am not preaching, just a comment. I think this may be as evolved as we are as a species, and I don't think we will evolve past this. Men who can rise above this rancor and lead us out of it are far and few between and none of them are here to help us. So enjoy another poke in the eye, We are all (no exceptions) a bunch of losers.

Buzz off...were having fun. Go watch Oprah or something.

 

[Phoenix]

The usual East argument - don't like the rule so it doesn't apply to them. Like not liking laws - "I was driving the car but it's the government's fault that I was speeding, ran that stop sign, caused a wreck, etc - they passed those laws, not me, and the manufacturer built the car that can all those things so it's their fault."

Jim

Jim, you have no clue either (at least on the point you replied to). The lovely lady is more than able to handle the posters here but it is kinda funny that you jumped on her without bothering to even understand what she said or what she was responding to.

Cheers.

P.S. Not all pilot wives agree with Missfit on everything, but 10 out of 10 agree a poster will rue the day he cavalierly tangles with her.

 

[luvn737s]

But in reality US's most western and most eastern hubs were in the same state for crying out loud. Talk about regional!

Way too funny! I love it!!
Makes you wanna put on your uniform and head to a union meeting and address each other as "Captain" So-and-So.

Hobo's with a superiority complex!

 

[BoeingBoy]

Once this insane attempt to drag the process out gets terminated, the company will be off the hook for a west DFR (as if they somehow could sue the company for such a thing)

A couple of errors. If the DJ request gets terminated without an answer, the company will still be very much on the hook - the whole purpose of the DJ request is for the company to get off the hook. The hook is a hybrid DFR suit, not a DFR suit. In a hybrid suit, one defendant (USAPA) is accused of violating it's DFR responsibilities while the other defendant (the company) is accused of at least violating a contract and possibly also of abetting the union 's attempt to escape it's DFR responsibility.

So you can say that Nic is dead all you like, but until a judge rules or jury decides (again) it's still an unanswered question. Claiming otherwise carries absolutely no weight at all.

Jim

 

[BoeingBoy]

Jim, you have no clue either (at least on the point you replied to). The lovely lady is more than able to handle the posters here but it is kinda funny that you jumped on her without bothering to even understand what she said or what she was responding to.

I understood the point of the post I extracted that sentence from, but it made too good a jumping off point for a commentary on the East not taking ownership of the effects of their actions to pass up.

BTW, missfit doesn't threaten me in the least since there's nothing "she" can say that affects me at all. I actually find "her" posts funny as the same crew room gossip spews forth claimed as being facts.

Jim

 

[767jetz]

I like how UAL is trying to mess with CAL scope, I'm sure the United pilots are all for it, nothing like helping out your fellow airline pilot...it's the ALPA way.

What on earth are you talking about????????

Scope is one of the biggest issues on the table for the JCBA. With regard to RJ flying, CO has better language and the JNC is looking to expand on it. You really are clueless. At least check your facts before spewing on the keyboard.

 

[767jetz]

That's the reality. The Nic is dead already. The union cannot present it. It's against the C&BLs.

Unfortunately for you, you don't get to dictate whether or not Nic is dead. Nor does your opinion have any relevance to what is unfolding in court. Repeating it like a daily mantra doesn't make it accurate. Funny how the courts are still discussing the Nic award and the Addington trial, even though you say it's dead. Hmmmm.

No one outside of your little lynch mob buys any of the USAPA propaganda. The only ammunition USAPA is continued delay. And that is quickly running out. You will find your truth and your reality before you know it.

Looking forward to the meltdown when your DOH wet dream finally comes to an end.

 

[N924PS]

Buzz off...were having fun. Go watch Oprah or something.

The only thing that would make it more fun would be for EAST US to return from the cornfield and challenge us to a dogfight.

 

[cactusboy53]

The utter and absolutel arrogance of this statement assures me that you are the "poser" I had assumed you to be. Quit pretending to be someone's wife, admit you were a furloughed fo when the acquisition occurred. You are a real treat! Amusing as hell but a treat just the same.

PS: Again, no facts. Opinion and emotion projectile vomited in no particular direction.

I've got to go with Ames on this one. Your responses and detailed remarks makes me believe that you actually work in the industry as a pilot. While our wives are smart people (with the possible exception of their chosen spouse... 🙂 ), I don't believe any have as fully developed grasp of the industry as you appear to have.

I'm just having fun imagining which one of you sits by your computer in a dress & high heels..... 😛

 

[Black Swan]

Wow, do you ever have a lot to say. I'm glad this board gives you a way to vent your frustration towards the East pilots...obviously you must have suffered at the hands of one somehow to have such strong feelings against them.
I have a reason behind my support I'm just trying to understand why you have such a deep rooted, dare I say, hatred towards them.

I seem to remember ALPA National thwarting recalls of reps among other things...and there were a few situations where ALPA did take it out of the pilots hands...
ALPA= Cigar smoking, scotch drinking, backroom deals.

Always a lot to say, supposedly does not work here, but every waking moment just hanging around tossing molatovs...... you figure it out.

 

[cleardirect]

They will use what the union presents to them. They already said that they will. Nothing biased about that.

Once this insane attempt to drag the process out gets terminated, the company will be off the hook for a west DFR (as if they somehow could sue the company for such a thing), and USAPA will FINALLY be able to negotiate a contract.

That's the reality. The Nic is dead already. The union cannot present it. It's against the C&BLs.

Please point to any court document that the company states they will accept any list the union presents them.

What is stopping usapa other than inability and inexperience from getting 29 of the other section closed. Finally get a contract 2.5 years and usapa can not even get the easy stuff done.