2015 Fleet Service thread

[Albert]

I'm not on the negotiating committee but NO. I DO NOT care about about anyone else's house except the one that I live in. If my house is sound (SCOPE) and it's set up the way I like it, if the guy down the street wants to build a pool in his yard that's up to him.

AND you guys are already pulling your hair out like mad dogs to get at the money, you really want to sit around waiting longer for that Wonka Golden Egg? "Veruca Salt"

The why are you saying we should wait and see what UA gets?

 

[Albert]

Well if you admit that you're an idiot then are trying to convince me not to restore a car "I" like and has served me well for for 12 years now?

Sorry I don't take the advice of self professed idiots.

You're driving around  in a 1998 car  with no floor boards and you dont need a raise I dont think that ride is babe magnet.At least you could drop the collision

 

[700UW]

What group were you compared to and can you provide that Article or LOA?
I really would be interested in seeing that in writing?

We only had it from 1999, 2000, and 2001.

It was the average of UA, AA, and I think DL +1%.

If they didn't get raises or small ones then we got very little.

 

[700UW]

You do realize DL just whacked the PS by 50%?

 

[Tim Nelson]

You're driving around  in a 1998 car  with no floor boards and you dont need a raise I dont think that ride is babe magnet.At least you could drop the collision

who cares about cars. I want better than what non union delta has for its full timers and i want better than what the cwa got in its first contract for the agents. No reason why we should be the worse of everything. I supported the association as a path of wisom by both unions but it now appears as if they just fell into it and have not prepared. Yes, we need the cash for sure and we need the same scope as the ticket counter got with 5 flights and grandfather rights. But with a monstrously significant pay raise now isnt the time for union squabbles.

regards,

 

[Albert]

We only had it from 1999, 2000, and 2001.

It was the average of UA, AA, and I think DL +1%.

If they didn't get raises or small ones then we got very little.

I thought it was pretty good considering we were like the sixth largest airline at the time. I think we got close to $22 an hour before the s##tstorm

 

[Albert]

who cares about cars. I want better than what non union delta has for its full timers and i want better than what the cwa got in its first contract for the agents. No reason why we should be the worse of everything. I supported the association as a path of wisom by both unions but it now appears as if they just fell into it and have not prepared. Yes, we need the cash for sure and we need the same scope as the ticket counter got with 5 flights and grandfather rights. But with a monstrously significant pay raise now isnt the time for union squabbles.

regards,

 I thinl in the end we will be in the same ballpark as the CWA trouble is getting there. Is there anyway a mediator could be brought (forced) in to settle these squabbles?

 

[WeAAsles]

You're driving around  in a 1998 car  with no floor boards and you dont need a raise I dont think that ride is babe magnet.At least you could drop the collision

I keep it because I like it and also keep it well maintained. I also don't like being in debt and haven't been in that position for many years now.

Makes one a lot less desperate for cash.
.

 

[700UW]

who cares about cars. I want better than what non union delta has for its full timers and i want better than what the cwa got in its first contract for the agents. No reason why we should be the worse of everything. I supported the association as a path of wisom by both unions but it now appears as if they just fell into it and have not prepared. Yes, we need the cash for sure and we need the same scope as the ticket counter got with 5 flights and grandfather rights. But with a monstrously significant pay raise now isnt the time for union squabbles.
regards,

So do you want 40% ready reserve making $12.16 an hour with no benefits?

Those ready reserve fund the full timers.

 

[topDawg]

You do realize DL just whacked the PS by 50%?

no. 
Delta only "whacked" PS if they don't make more than the last year. 
 
yes are some point this bubble will pop but for now (ie the next two/three years) it is a safe bet we will be getting 20%. 

 

[bob@las-AA]

 

You are a mole ...aren't you!!
Foolish to try to sway the sentiments of the membership on this forum. Nice try but YOU FAIL!

 

[WeAAsles]

no. 
Delta only "whacked" PS if they don't make more than the last year. 
 
yes are some point this bubble will pop but for now (ie the next two/three years) it is a safe bet we will be getting 20%.

Dawg correct me if I'm wrong? But I thought how I read it was say you make 6 Billion in profit this year. Your payout will be 20%. Next year if you make 7 Billion you would get 6 at 10% and 1 at 20%?

 

[topDawg]

Dawg correct me if I'm wrong? But I thought how I read it was say you make 6 Billion in profit this year. Your payout will be 20%. Next year if you make 7 Billion you would get 6 at 10% and 1 at 20%?

no my understanding of it is if we make 6 this year and 6.0000000001 next year we get 20%. 
If we make 5.999999 however then we make 10%. 
 
And i am pretty sure it is pre taxes which will be important in 2017ish. 

 

[WeAAsles]

no my understanding of it is if we make 6 this year and 6.0000000001 next year we get 20%. 
If we make 5.999999 however then we make 10%. 
 
And i am pretty sure it is pre taxes which will be important in 2017ish.

I'm not so sure? Why would Parker cut the numbers on our side down to 3% then saying that your PS was cut in half?

Kev what's your take on this?

 

[Kev3188]

I keep it because I like it and also keep it well maintained. I also don't like being in debt and haven't been in that position for many years now.
Makes one a lot less desperate for cash.
.

Exactly.

I finally went an got a new (to me) car after my other one passed 250k miles, and only because it was facing more repair costs than it was actually worth...

  

I'm not so sure? Why would Parker cut the numbers on our side down to 3% then saying that your PS was cut in half?
Kev what's your take on this?

My understanding is that Dawg's example is correct. The threshold to trigger a 20% payout is currently $2.5B. The new one going forward will be the previous year's total+1.

The 10% payout of first dollar profits up to the previous year's total remains unchanged...