Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

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I've been paid more than you the entire 7 year period.
 
And, since February, WAY more than you.  And all my east colleagues on similar equipment are now paid EXACTLY the same as you.
 
Life is good.
 
And, again, how is that Nic thingy going for you?

How's that SnapBack going for ya?
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Leonidas......

The best dollars I ever spent.

Punishing cheats by keeping them on LOA 93 for 7 years.
 

 

[nycbusdriver]

How's that SnapBack going for ya?
Snap-this......

Leonidas......

The best dollars I ever spent.

Punishing cheats by keeping them on LOA 93 for 7 years.

 
Yes, we do appreciate all those dues dollars (glad you consider them your best dollars, too) you are contributing to keeping the Nicolau off the property.  So far, it's working splendidly!   Again thank you!

 

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Yes, we do appreciate all those dues dollars (glad you consider them your best dollars, too) you are contributing to keeping the Nicolau off the property.  So far, it's working splendidly!   Again thank you!

 
Since Judge Silver hasn't ruled yet...

 
 Consider it a loan.

 

[Phoenix]

How's that SnapBack going for ya?
Snap-this......

Leonidas......

The best dollars I ever spent.

Punishing cheats by keeping them on LOA 93 for 7 years.
 

 
 
RR theorem, again. I know.  I know.  You are ecstatic (even though you never got the Nic) because you think we are more miserable than you are.  Keep telling us how miserable we are.  Keep telling us.  Please.  🙂

 

[traderjake]

 
No, I'm bragging that I've been paid more than him.
 

 
So it doesn't matter how little you make as long as it more than a West NB pilot.
 
You must be very proud.

 

[Phoenix]

 
Since Judge Silver hasn't ruled yet...

 
 Consider it a loan.

 
Did you even notice that Marty didn't ask for any damages to be paid to YOU, but instead only asked for payment for HIMSELF?  Your money is GONE, and Marty didn't even ask for the judge to recover any of it, much less did he even ask for any punitive damages to be paid for all the "suffering" you have experienced at the hands of USAPA....  And he knew what paragraph 4 of the MOU did to the 2005 TA. 
 
What redeeming trait does your lawyer have?  😀  Seriously... You guys paid gobs of money to have your lawyer tell you, "If you want to see a merger with American, according to the terms of the MOU, then vote yes."  That is the best they could do after you bought them a Ferrari or two and a vacation home?

 

[luvthe9]

One other thing...about being punched out....
I'd put my money on JJ, he's in a lot better shape than Flounder.

Sure. I'd agree with you but there is that "shape" issue of paying 675k for something that amounts to 350k. Kind of like the 2 mill for Addington 1. Who knows what the latest legal debacle will run you.

 

[luvthe9]

Did you even notice that Marty didn't ask for any damages to be paid to YOU, but instead only asked for payment for HIMSELF?  Your money is GONE, and Marty didn't even ask for the judge to recover any of it, much less did he even ask for any punitive damages to be paid for all the "suffering" you have experienced at the hands of USAPA....  And he knew what paragraph 4 of the MOU did to the 2005 TA. 
 
What redeeming trait does your lawyer have?  😀  Seriously... You guys paid gobs of money to have your lawyer tell you, "If you want to see a merger with American, according to the terms of the MOU, then vote yes."  That is the best they could do after you bought them a Ferrari or two and a vacation home?

Marty made a career of the Nicolau. He mined millions from thousands.

 

[traderjake]

 Rumor is that we are getting sattelite bases in Miami and Boston because Amercan is short there.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 Rumor is that we are getting sattelite bases in Miami and Boston because Amercan is short there.

 
Ding,  ding, ding!  Gotta play the "B******T" card here.
 
Go ahead and stir the pot, though.  
 
Why not call the school house in Fort Worth and ask for a 777 Pilot Handbook, too?
 
You have 3000+ pilots already who think you're a d***head.  Trying to add another 10,000?

 

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RR theorem, again. I know.  I know.  You are ecstatic (even though you never got the Nic) because you think we are more miserable than you are.  Keep telling us how miserable we are.  Keep telling us.  Please.   🙂

 
 RR theorem? Rich in failure and denial.
 
USAPA was going to show ALPA the greatest union in history, instead you showed them the greatest airway union failure. I seem to remember an event where the Philadelphia reps got put in trusteeship. So, if you could not even run a domicile how could you run a union?
 
Executive Board Affirms Trusteeship for Local Council 41
Unanimously votes that representatives failed to fulfill basic duties of office
 
"The ALPA Executive Board met in Washington, D.C., today, and unanimously affirmed the trusteeship of Local Council 41, which represents US Airways pilots based in Philadelphia. The vote came after a lengthy hearing and subsequent discussion among Executive Board members."
 
"The practical effect of the vote is to leave the council in trusteeship, continue to bar its former officers from serving, and leave the three appointed trustees in place."
 
http://public.alpa.org/portals/alpa/fastread/2008/FastreadNEWSFLASH_20080328.htm
 
 
You all wanted to run the show. ALPA showed a pattern of failing to do your duties. That continues to this day. Evidence shows that a number of the pilots USAPA claims to represent are less than satisfied with USAPA's representation and attempts to get pilots terminated under section 29. I"ll share some comments:
 
"I recieved my notice on 11/19/2013. I wrote a check and mailed on 11/23/2013 with Delivery Confirmation. 12/4/2013 is the drop dead date. USPS says it was delivered on 11/25/2013. I just checked the USCABA website (and I feel gross), and im still listed as a non member. Im assuming that means in bad standing. Just checked my bank account and the check has cleared. Im ASSuming that all is good even though its not reflected on their website. How does one be sure? I just dont trust these thieves!
 
OK I've been on dues checkoff since 2008 and in good standing since then and now all of a sudden I am in bad standing and they say I owe a chunk of change. Who can I discuss and confer on USAPA on the west side to see if I am being screwed before I pay?
 
Good Question! I've been on dues checkoff for many years as well and just tried to check my status on the USCABA website. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but I've seen a few websites ( no porn jokes ) and found no obvious link to check membership status and account information
 
Did you pay the $100 extortion to get back in good standing? Also, you had until 12/11/13 to pay up so don't panic. Like all things USAPA: if it helps an Easthole or hurts one of us, they are on it like flies on ####. If it only helps you they'll get to it sometime in the future.
 
Same exact situation here. Check delivered and cashed since last week. Guess we are good, right? I also DO NOT trust them bastards!
 
I just called CHAOS headquarters to see the procedure from when they receive the check, to depositing, to acknowledging and returning to good standing. I was told when the computer shows the balance not negative we will receive a mailed balance. So, I asked "then when you see the extortion money is in your account then you send out a balance receipt, but we will receive that after the must be received by date, right?" He got mad and said it's not extortion money and hung up... p.s. I am talking about a 49 cent check I had to write them. I really, really, really hate these guys.
 
how can we be 100% sure that we are off the hook? Checks received and cashed, but I do NOT want to give these a$$ wipes the benefit of the doubt, and fire some of us....
 
This is total BS I can't believe airline pilots run a dirtbag operation like this supposed joke of a union. Pure extortion"
 
 
 Bravo, Usapians showed ALPA how to run a union.

 
 

 

 

[traderjake]

You have 3000+ pilots already who think you're a d***head.  

 
Does that mean we're not pals anymore?
 
Should I return your Christmas present?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
 
 
 
USAPA was going to show ALPA the greatest union in history, instead you showed them the greatest airway union failure. I seem to remember an event where the Philadelphia reps got put in trusteeship. So, if you could not even run a domicile how could you run a union?
 
Executive Board Affirms Trusteeship for Local Council 41
Unanimously votes that representatives failed to fulfill basic duties of office
 
"The ALPA Executive Board met in Washington, D.C., today, and unanimously affirmed the trusteeship of Local Council 41, which represents US Airways pilots based in Philadelphia. The vote came after a lengthy hearing and subsequent discussion among Executive Board members."
 
"The practical effect of the vote is to leave the council in trusteeship, continue to bar its former officers from serving, and leave the three appointed trustees in place."
 
http://public.alpa.org/portals/alpa/fastread/2008/FastreadNEWSFLASH_20080328.htm
 
 
You all wanted to run the show. ALPA showed a pattern of failing to do your duties. That continues to this day. Evidence shows that a number of the pilots USAPA claims to represent are less than satisfied with USAPA's represntation and attempts to get pilots terminated under section 29. I"ll share some comments:
 
"I recieved my notice on 11/19/2013. I wrote a check and mailed on 11/23/2013 with Delivery Confirmation. 12/4/2013 is the drop dead date. USPS says it was delivered on 11/25/2013. I just checked the USCABA website (and I feel gross), and im still listed as a non member. Im assuming that means in bad standing. Just checked my bank account and the check has cleared. Im ASSuming that all is good even though its not reflected on their website. How does one be sure? I just dont trust these thieves!
 
OK I've been on dues checkoff since 2008 and in good standing since then and now all of a sudden I am in bad standing and they say I owe a chunk of change. Who can I discuss and confer on USAPA on the west side to see if I am being screwed before I pay?
 
Good Question! I've been on dues checkoff for many years as well and just tried to check my status on the USCABA website. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but I've seen a few websites ( no porn jokes ) and found no obvious link to check membership status and account information
 
Did you pay the $100 extortion to get back in good standing? Also, you had until 12/11/13 to pay up so don't panic. Like all things USAPA: if it helps an Easthole or hurts one of us, they are on it like flies on ####. If it only helps you they'll get to it sometime in the future.
 
Same exact situation here. Check delivered and cashed since last week. Guess we are good, right? I also DO NOT trust them bastards!
 
I just called CHAOS headquarters to see the procedure from when they receive the check, to depositing, to acknowledging and returning to good standing. I was told when the computer shows the balance not negative we will receive a mailed balance. So, I asked "then when you see the extortion money is in your account then you send out a balance receipt, but we will receive that after the must be received by date, right?" He got mad and said it's not extortion money and hung up... p.s. I am talking about a 49 cent check I had to write them. I really, really, really hate these guys.
 
how can we be 100% sure that we are off the hook? Checks received and cashed, but I do NOT want to give these a$$ wipes the benefit of the doubt, and fire some of us....
 
This is total BS I can't believe airline pilots run a dirtbag operation like this supposed joke of a union. Pure extortion"
 
 
 Bravo, Usapians showed ALPA how to run a union.

 
 

 

 

West Pilot recalled EAST!

 

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West Pilot recalled EAST!

 

Nice try though.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 

Nice try though.

No he is! Your failure to name the guilty party ( besides we all know) is all to funny, JJ!