Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

Pay attention SCAB..I am only going to explain this once!

First, Parker did not stir up labor discord...the reneging malconts on the east did when they decided to SCAB West jobs!

Second, usapa is done. collective bargaining with the scab union ended when you got yourself parked by the NMB. The MOU is in effect. The MOU calls for integrating seniority via McCaskill/Bond, which is now federal law. MB states integration will be via AM as prescribed by the old CAB. Soooo.....the company is liable for assuring a "fair and equitable" integration. That alone ensures the scab union is OUT!!!

You show me one west job flown by an east crewmember. ONE.

 

[Reed Richards]

 
 
You boasted that Hummel made a deal with the company to offer retro pay on MOU II to "allow" CLT to "get" retro pay that Hummel and the company agreed to beforehand.... without the knowledge of the CLT reps as a minimum, and perhaps without the knowledge of the Professional Negotiator too, unless you mean to tell us the Professional Negotiator was also in on the secret play with Hummel and the company.  
 
 
 

[SIZE=10.5pt]Nice try. At least use the quote function.  Good job on the “recall Gary” angle, well played.  You are almost my equal in your ability to spin. But you must continue to “bow to the master!”  [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]J[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]Anyone heard from DiOrio today? I hear he is "on the run."[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]RR[/SIZE]

 

[Reed Richards]

 
 
You credited Hummel with the secret Retro Pay deal, and I said his clarification letter did NOT lose any bank.  
 
 

I credit Hummel for getting the CLT pilots to vote to send out the MOU.  But I do NOT credit Gary for actually getting the retro deal. That was more of a group effort, though I am sure Gary would be happy to take the credit, being as he is under recall and all!  (besides, I thought that was the CLT reps deal?)  RR

 

[Pi brat]

Pay attention SCAB..

Do you have the balls to walk up to an east pilot in the terminal and say that to his/her face?

 

[nevergiveup]

Pay attention SCAB..I am only going to explain this once!

First, Parker did not stir up labor discord...the reneging malconts on the east did when they decided to SCAB West jobs!

Second, usapa is done. collective bargaining with the scab union ended when you got yourself parked by the NMB. The MOU is in effect. The MOU calls for integrating seniority via McCaskill/Bond, which is now federal law. MB states integration will be via AM as prescribed by the old CAB. Soooo.....the company is liable for assuring a "fair and equitable" integration. That alone ensures the scab union is OUT!!!

I hope she's not married!

 

[Reed Richards]

I hope she's not married!

Not "she."  "It."
 
RR

 

[Phoenix]

[SIZE=10.5pt].. you must continue to “bow to the master!” [/SIZE]
...
[SIZE=10.5pt]RR[/SIZE]

 
 
A man has got to ask himself if he can handle the engine in his car before he steps on the pedal. 

 

[Res Judicata]

Do you have the balls to walk up to an east pilot in the terminal and say that to his/her face?

I've done it. They avert their eyes and slink away like cowards.

 

[EastUS1]

I've done it. They avert their eyes and slink away like cowards.

 
Sure they do. What a pathetic little joke "you'se" are "spartan". Repeat: How about a minor (and purely recreational) aerial mixup for only 5-10K?, or as your budget permits, up or down. I'd hate to leave a mighty "spartan" seeking personal "tough guy" vindication unsatisfied...? This would afford you the opportunity to tell me anything you want to my "cowardly face" in the process, of course, not to mention uphold the "honor" of the "spartans"....? 🙂 Funds to be held by a mutually agreeable third party, and distributed only after all, equally agreed, wager terms are completed....?
 
No? "They avert their eyes and slink away......" 😉
 
Keep the chuckles coming kid.

 

[Pi brat]

I've done it. They avert their eyes and slink away like cowards.

You do it to me and that won't be what happens.

 

[EastUS1]

Last week the Company proposed a meeting on December 20 with themselves, USAPA, APA, and the Addington II plaintiffs. As you know, the Company, USAPA, and APA are the only parties to the MOU. The plaintiffs in the Addington II litigation are not. A meeting between the Company and the Addington II plaintiffs concerning seniority would be a violation of a number of sections of the MOU as well as the Railway Labor Act. Additionally, the Company has never indicated the intended subject matter of the proposed meeting.
The USAPA Merger Committee will not be attending the meeting, or any other meeting that includes parties other than the exclusive bargaining agents of the two pilot groups and the Company, unless and until there is a requirement from the courts. Our counsel has stated this position to the Company, including the fact that such a meeting would violate USAPA’s status as the certified bargaining representative of all US Airways Pilots.

 

[end_of_alpa]

I've done it. They avert their eyes and slink away like cowards.

You haven't done it TO ME!  You're a liar, you low life who only speaks in terms it understands.

 

[Phoenix]

Last week the Company proposed a meeting on December 20 with themselves, USAPA, APA, and the Addington II plaintiffs. As you know, the Company, USAPA, and APA are the only parties to the MOU. The plaintiffs in the Addington II litigation are not. A meeting between the Company and the Addington II plaintiffs concerning seniority would be a violation of a number of sections of the MOU as well as the Railway Labor Act. Additionally, the Company has never indicated the intended subject matter of the proposed meeting.
The USAPA Merger Committee will not be attending the meeting, or any other meeting that includes parties other than the exclusive bargaining agents of the two pilot groups and the Company, unless and until there is a requirement from the courts. Our counsel has stated this position to the Company, including the fact that such a meeting would violate USAPA’s status as the certified bargaining representative of all US Airways Pilots.

 
 
Thanks of the update.  
 
Reading the whole merger committee update, USAPA did met with the APA on the 19th to discuss the Protocol Agreement and have additional meetings scheduled in January.
 

 
Merger Committee Update
Details   Created on Friday, 20 December 2013 12:54
On Thursday, December 19, in compliance with the MOU direction regarding the Seniority List Integration (SLI) timeline, representatives from your Merger Committee met in Washington with representatives of the APA Seniority Integration Committee. We discussed language for the Protocol Agreement which will govern major aspects of the upcoming SLI process. This is the 1st phase of the Seniority Integration process as defined in the MOU Timeline..............USAPA Merger Committee
 

 
 
Frankly I think the USAPA merger committee should tell us if the APA went to the dubious meeting with the company today.....  If the APA goes then USAPA should be their and stipulate their protest to the violation of the MOU, and state they are present only for taking notes of evidence for their imminent law suit against all parties that may violation or acquiesce to the violation of the MOU, if any.   

 

[EastUS1]

Frankly I think the merger committee should tell us if the APA went to the dubious meeting with the company and the West pilots.....  If the APA goes then USAPA should be their and stipulate their protest to the violation of the MOU, and state they are present only for taking notes of evidence for their imminent law suit against all parties that may violation or acquiesce to the violation of the MOU, if any.   

 
Agreed.

 

[Phoenix]

 
Agreed.

 
 
Silver promised Doug and Gary she would publish yesterday. But she didn't follow the play book, lines at the mall have her a little behind, so I've heard from a bird on my window sill.    😀