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snapthis said:
 
Y'all remind me of those Somali pirates. Grabbing West hostages with RICO lawsuits in attempt to subdue opposition to your attempted theft of our careers.There's been an effective weapon against pirates where their hatred of anything West is used against them as a deterrent. It's a form of psychological warfare. It's called Britney Spears.
 
"Merchant naval officer Rachel Owens recently spoke to Metro and revealed that a "blast of Britney" is all it takes to send the pirates packing. Her songs were chosen by the security team because they thought the pirates would hate them most," Owens said.The "Toxic" singer can take heart though — it's nothing personal.
 
"These guys can't stand western culture or music, making Britney's hits perfect," Owens explained. "It’s so effective the ship’s security rarely needs to resort to firing guns."
There you have it: Britney Spears
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/britney-spears-music-used-drive-away-somali-pirates-8C11488068#
 
Your hatred of the West has caused you to make some stupid and emotional decisions which have cost you dearly. I'm more than happy to remind you in the form of my support of AOL's lawsuits and here on this forum for as long as it takes.
 
"Oops!... I Did It Again"
 
:lol:
 
Dire Wolves, Spartans, and now Britney Spears Aficionados.  Oooookayyyy  Doaaakyyyy.   🙄
 
P.S.  You still don't get it.  Nobody on the East hates the West.  Can you plaintiffs pick a point you are trying to prove?  We We hate the Nic.  We hate the West.  We tricked the West.  We lied to the West.  We told the West we won't use the Nic.   We told the West to vote "yes"  (Oops that was Leospanker).  
 
Marty has failed to prove a DFR all these years because he refuses to start his legal argument with the STANDARD OF DFR!!! 😛
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
Marty's first blunder is his greedy attempt to place the burden of proof on the defendant rather than man up and accept that he has to prove USAPA acted outside a wide range of reasonableness.  Integrity.  Meh.  
Marty bases his unending billing adventures on another implicit assumption and wastes everyone's money and time.  (But not PositiveNellie's anymore, since he "retired" from there 😀 )
 
The only question that remains is if Silver has the cajones to sign her name to be on board with that.   :lol:
 
 
snapthis said:
 
Y'all remind me of those Somali pirates. Grabbing West hostages with RICO lawsuits in attempt to subdue opposition to your attempted theft of our careers.There's been an effective weapon against pirates where their hatred of anything West is used against them as a deterrent. It's a form of psychological warfare. It's called Britney Spears.
 
"Merchant naval officer Rachel Owens recently spoke to Metro and revealed that a "blast of Britney" is all it takes to send the pirates packing. Her songs were chosen by the security team because they thought the pirates would hate them most," Owens said.The "Toxic" singer can take heart though — it's nothing personal.
 
"These guys can't stand western culture or music, making Britney's hits perfect," Owens explained. "It’s so effective the ship’s security rarely needs to resort to firing guns."
There you have it: Britney Spears
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/britney-spears-music-used-drive-away-somali-pirates-8C11488068#
 
Your hatred of the West has caused you to make some stupid and emotional decisions which have cost you dearly. I'm more than happy to remind you in the form of my support of AOL's lawsuits and here on this forum for as long as it takes.
 
"Oops!... I Did It Again"
 
:lol:
 
 
Portly Dorman said:
A non-responsive answer....
 
 
 
Even Portly Dorman gets it.  :lol: 
 
Portly Dorman said:
A non-responsive answer....much like the answers from Hummel and the boy wonder Bradford.
The thing about a DFR lawsuit....
 
Marty can never win a DFR lawsuit by showing the defendant has insufficient answers to prove their innocence.   Marty can only win a lawsuit by proving the defendant breached a standard, has actually caused harm, and he can do so even if the defendant is silent.  
 
Implicit assumptions that the defendant is guilty unless they prove their innocence won't cut it.   Marty's request to have the judge be complicit with his implicit assumption won't go over very well... at least not when its all said and done.   🙂
 
Phoenix said:
The thing about a DFR lawsuit....
 
Marty can never win a DFR lawsuit by showing the defendant has insufficient answers to prove their innocence.   Marty can only win a lawsuit by proving the defendant breached a standard, has actually caused harm, and he can do so even if the defendant is silent.  
 
Implicit assumptions that the defendant is guilty unless they prove their innocence won't cut it.   Marty's request to have the judge be complicit with his implicit assumption won't go over very well... at least not when its all said and done.   🙂
Marty can never win.......Really? 🙂
 
I put my money on AOL. You care to put your money, time and the LLC together after USAPA is gone?
 
Don't count on the APA to care about your "internal" dispute :lol:
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
Marty can never win a DFR lawsuit by showing the defendant has insufficient answers to prove their innocence.  
 
 
What do you mean? Snappy says they've already won.
 
Pi brat said:
 
 
What do you mean? Snappy says they've already won.
 
OK smart guy Pi, would you consider this another USAPA win?
See below:
 
 
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
Don Addington; et al,
Plaintiffs,
vs.
US Airline Pilots Ass’n; and US Airways,
Inc.,
Defendants.
CASE NO. 2:13-CV-00471-ROS
ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO
STRIKE
THE COURT, having considered Plaintiffs’ Motion to Strike Defendant USAPA’s Motion to Include the Declaration of Gary Hummel and Response to Plaintiffs’ Notice of
Status Regarding the Declaration of Gary Hummel, Doc. 256, and, finding good cause appearing,
ORDERS that the Motion to Strike is GRANTED and further ORDERS that the Clerk of the Court Strike Document 256 and all of its attachments
 
Document 256 Filed 10/30/13
Case No.: CV-13-00471-PHX-ROS
US Airline Pilots Association’s
Motion to Include the Declaration
of Gary Hummel in the Trial
Record and Response to Plaintiffs’
Notice of Status Regarding the
Declaration of Gary Hummel
 
 
 
Freighterguynow said:
Addington - Hail Mary v 3.0 !
 
I'd say the Addington case stands a better chance of success than the Eagles, Steelers or Giants in 2013. :lol:
 
Pi brat said:
What do you mean? Snappy says they've already won.
There is no doubt Silver has toyed with the idea of using her unpublished "order" as a DFR standard in substitution for the published standard cited by the 9th.... But toying with the idea and actually signing a guilty verdict are two different things, especially since she knows it will go to the 9th. Does she have the cajones? 😀

Ironically she has the DOJ lawsuit that could make her look stupid...

And she has her own DJ being reviewed by the 9th (where she already found for USAPA). If she chooses to contradict herself now then she is going to be begging the 9th to reverse her, one way or the other. 😀
 
snapthis said:
 
OK smart guy Pi, would you consider this another USAPA win?
See below:
 
 

 
 
I don't consider it a win or a loss. I'll judge that when the last judge rules in the case. Then we will add up what we have all lost.
 
snapthis said:
OK smart guy Pi, would you consider this another USAPA win?
See below:
 
 
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
Don Addington; et al,
Plaintiffs,
vs.
US Airline Pilots Ass’n; and US Airways,
Inc.,
Defendants.
CASE NO. 2:13-CV-00471-ROS
ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO
STRIKE
THE COURT, having considered Plaintiffs’ Motion to Strike Defendant USAPA’s Motion to Include the Declaration of Gary Hummel and Response to Plaintiffs’ Notice of
Status Regarding the Declaration of Gary Hummel, Doc. 256, and, finding good cause appearing,
ORDERS that the Motion to Strike is GRANTED and further ORDERS that the Clerk of the Court Strike Document 256 and all of its attachments
 
Document 256 Filed 10/30/13
Case No.: CV-13-00471-PHX-ROS
US Airline Pilots Association’s
Motion to Include the Declaration
of Gary Hummel in the Trial
Record and Response to Plaintiffs’
Notice of Status Regarding the
Declaration of Gary Hummel
Meh. I would expect someone like you obsessed with integrity would rebuke a judge that obstructs an honest trial and undermines a perception of legitimacy. :lol:
 
snapthis said:
Marty can never win.......Really? 🙂
 
I put my money on AOL. You care to put your money, time and the LLC together after USAPA is gone?
 
Don't count on the APA to care about your "internal" dispute :lol:
How come PositiveNellie retired him off their letterhead? Serious question... ... Really, serious question. If they are about to hit pay day why push Marty out now?
 
Phoenix said:
How come PositiveNellie retired him off their letterhead? Serious question... ... Really, serious question. If they are about to hit pay day why push Marty out now?
They did not want to invest more into Martys money pit.
 
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