Nov/Dec 2013 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

Agenda Item - Mike Cleary claim on USAPA Trademark/Vacation update
The Board spent approximately 30 minutes on this item and determined the claim on the trademark was meritless because it must be used in commerce and the claim for vacation pay was not in accordance with LOA 95. On advice of counsel, the following motion was moved/seconded by Stein/Frear and passed 10-1 (No - CLT Borman).

No-CLT Boreman. Flounder all by himself....

Meanwhile, LuvClaxon are consoling each other.

 

[Claxon]

APA was very interested in the following video.  Yes, they know who they are dealing with and are not concerned. 
 
Dragging your youth in on the disagreement?  I disagree with this.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHUx5rdXM0Q&list=PL21C1C7D32B996827&index=12

 

[Claxon]

Hummel will be out soon.  The 9th circuit will take care of the rest in a few years, after a lower court makes the same mistake twice.

 

[Phoenix]

Agenda Item - Mike Cleary claim on USAPA Trademark/Vacation update
The Board spent approximately 30 minutes on this item and determined the claim on the trademark was meritless because it must be used in commerce and the claim for vacation pay was not in accordance with LOA 95. On advice of counsel, the following motion was moved/seconded by Stein/Frear and passed 10-1 (No - CLT Borman).

No-CLT Boreman. Flounder all by himself....

Meanwhile, LuvClaxon are consoling each other.

 
I think Boreman would be delighted to spot you such a consolation.   Float your boat however you have to.  

 

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I think Boreman would be delighted to spot you such a consolation.   Float your boat however you have to.  

 
My boat floats just fine.
 
You might need to borrow one when the levee breaks.... USAPA's theme song.

"When The Levee Breaks"

If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When The Levee Breaks I'll have no place to stay.

Mean old levee taught me to weep and moan,
Got what it takes to make a mountain man leave his home,
Oh, well, oh, well, oh, well.

Don't it make you feel bad

Cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good,
Now, cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good,
When the levee breaks, mama, you got to move.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VZtQPdSIsk

 

[Claxon]

Hey everyone, do you have trouble finding Christmas gift items?   america west employees working for the great profit machine, have ideas for you. 
 
How did they get those items from the company?  The next thing you know they will have a management pilot steal employee personal information from company computers and hand it over to a third party.   er...,,.. nevermind.
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202001665395881
 


Eric Auxier LMAO never seen this b4!
December 3 at 3:20pm

 

[Claxon]

 
Hey everyone, do you have trouble finding Christmas gift items?   america west employees working for the great profit machine, have ideas for you. 
 
How did they get those items from the company?  The next thing you know they will have a management pilot steal employee personal information from company computers and hand it over to a third party.   er...,,.. nevermind.
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202001665395881
 


Eric Auxier LMAO never seen this b4!
December 3 at 3:20pm


 

Hey I called that 1 800 number and it did not connect.  I wanted to order pre ATSB loan awa items.  If those items were taken from your company without consent,  I will not order.
 
snap, your thoughts please sir?

 

[EastUS1]

 


Eric Auxier LMAO never seen this b4!
December 3 at 3:20pm


 

 
Ah! "Cap'n Aux" 😉 A more clinically perfect "poster child" for Arrested Development could generally, only be found amongst some Hollyweird people, and the sad progeny of indulgently wealthy (and without ANY semblance of proper parenting) examples = Paris Hilton/etc. That doesn't make the youngster anything inherently "evil", by any means....Just completely clueless. One should assume in such cases, the wholesale lack of any external/real world, or personally severe, self-testing throughout life produced results of that order. IE: It's very easy to be a "spartan"/"knight"/'dire wolf"/etc, ONLY if if one never exits Fantasyland.....Or  perhaps even Peter Pan, again, only if safely nestled within Wonderland's confines. Outside of that?...The unknown element of possibly losing a father at a young age could well play in, in some cases. Enough two-bit "Dr. Phil" BS without adequate data. A lot of circumstantial combinations sometimes cause a child to "freeze" at some "safe" point in personal development, and I can't presume to really speak for whatever happened to that poor fellow, purely based on Facebook nonsense/infantile videos/'spartan"/"knights"/etc fantasies.

 

[Res Judicata]

The courts have certainly enforced contracts that stipulate an arbitration award.  No doubt.  And they have also enforced contracts that nullify previous contracts.  That is just the nature of contracts.... and the pilots have always been involved in contract negotiations from the beginning of this internal dispute.  Contract... contract...  breath.  Breath.  Breath..
 
On Dec 9th the terms of the MOU will be dispositive, just like Leonidas, LLC told you to expect.  
 
P.S.  I think your brain is on overload contemplating the authority of the contract you voted for.  You totally forgot to use the word "scab".

What would you care to bet Silver isn't going to dismiss this on the 9th based upon your logic?

 

[Claxon]

What would you care to bet Silver isn't going to dismiss this on the 9th based upon your logic?

It does not matter.  hummel out, 9th in.

 

[EastUS1]

It does not matter.  hummel out, 9th in.

Works for me on both counts.

 

[Claxon]

How much is a seat belt extender?  I wanted to send one to the webbers.
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202001665395881

 

[Claxon]

Res, your thoughts please sir?

 

[algflyr]

I'm leaning towards voting No for the recall. It seems like a moot point to do it. Once the APA become our CBA, he will be gone anyway. I would think the current BPR members will stay in their current roles under the APA as reps for our domiciles (Not sure what happens in DCA though).
 
The MOU is signed and will be set in motion on Monday. And according to the Merger Committee, the East list and the West list will be used for integration with the APA. So a three way like I thought all along... I would think this is what the pilots want. With Gary staying President, things should progress along these lines.
 
A recall opens a lot of uncertainties at a critical time. Who will become President, and more importantly, what does the new President and his/her supporters think can be accomplished other than what is already happening? A re-do of the MOU? Not gonna happen.
 
Surely a new President would have the ability to completely change our Merger Committee and their current objectives. Why would we want that?
 
The West reps are VERY supportive about getting Gary out (And Steve). Why is that? What does the West see as a benefit for a successful recall?
 
Just wondering...

 

[Claxon]

I'm leaning towards voting No for the recall. It seems like a moot point to do it. Once the APA become our CBA, he will be gone anyway. I would think the current BPR members will stay in their current roles under the APA as reps for our domiciles (Not sure what happens in DCA though).
 
The MOU is signed and will be set in motion on Monday. And according to the Merger Committee, the East list and the West list will be used for integration with the APA. So a three way like I thought all along... I would think this is what the pilots want. With Gary staying President, things should progress along these lines.
 
A recall opens a lot of uncertainties at a critical time. Who will become President, and more importantly, what does the new President and his/her supporters think can be accomplished other than what is already happening? A re-do of the MOU? Not gonna happen.
 
Surely a new President would have the ability to completely change our Merger Committee and their current objectives. Why would we want that?
 
The West reps are VERY supportive about getting Gary out (And Steve). Why is that? What does the West see as a benefit for a successful recall?
 
Just wondering...

Courage. hummel is gone soon. Grab your teddy bear.