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traderjake said:
 
If only we were as brave as luvthe9 we'd have DOH, Delta payrates, and a $100,000 signing bonus. :lol:  
I agree, your are right for once. Can't wait for APA also.
 
Piedmont1984 said:
Guys like you and Claxon are why we are under an injunction. Yellow neckers who couldn't even keep a couple pilots from getting fired for not doing their homework. Just makes you puke.
Bet you would be the first to run out of the closet and claim victory when other people were fighting your battle. 
 
luvthe9 said:
I agree, your are right for once. Can't wait for APA also.
 
I'm sure the APA can't wait for the Flounder's arrival.
 
Be sure to bring a pizza. 
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luvthe9 said:
Bet you would be the first to run out of the closet and claim victory when other people were fighting your battle. 
 
Bet you're the first to run onto the battle field with no weapon. :lol:   
 
Every fervent supporter of Hummel owns this bankruptcy MOU. Doug gave the AA guys 575 million for the pension plus a nice tax free 120 thousand each guy. Hey you are going to get $8700 and then pay your taxes. Good job all you Hummel guys.

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The American pilots were part of the creditors committee thereby free to pursue their own claim in bankruptcy court. Doug 'gave' them nothing they didn't already have.

What kind of payout did the other Us Airways employee groups get? Nothing. Could we have gotten more? Maybe. Show me specifically what was left at the table not some rainbow pot of gold - just because .....

Not that I'm a fan of our current leadership. I thought the guy was a loser well before he ran for office.

One more thing ( not directed at Hate ) the APA president resigned, not recalled, after the American MOU was voted down.
 
traderjake said:
 
Bet you're the first to run onto the battle field with no weapon. :lol:   
That would take bravery, something you don't have.  😉
 
luvthe9 said:
Bet you would be the first to run out of the closet and claim victory when other people were fighting your battle.
I'd be happy to bet you. Just PM me the info. Oh wait, you can't because it's you hiding in the closet as we speak. Too funny.

The only battle you have ever fought is on Xbox.
 
Hate2fly said:
Union groupie......good one!

I lost all faith in this union when the pilots starting putting prior check airmen into power positions. Hummel was the last straw for me. Hummel didn't get you anything in this deal. He cost you about a hundred grand. The AA guys put this MOU in your pocket. The AA guys think Doug is going to make them the highest paid in the industry with a JCBA. Good luck with that pipe dream. This MOU will be here when you retire. Reed Richards and his buddies along with the Compass boys own this MOU. Every fervent supporter of Hummel owns this bankruptcy MOU. Doug gave the AA guys 575 million for the pension plus a nice tax free 120 thousand each guy. Hey you are going to get $8700 and then pay your taxes. Good job all you Hummel guys.

For the record I have not attended a union meeting since Hummel took office. I pay my dues and that is it.

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Maybe that is why you are so uninformed and think you are owed an equity share. You lost that years ago when your reps passed on the better deal for what ultimately became LOE93.
 
Uniformed? Change of control language that was Iron Clad. This transaction is only an 18 Billion dollar deal to create the worlds largest airline. This was your only money shot! And you accepted $8700 for your change of control provision. That language in the MOU was the only language clearly written! Doug was genius. He creates the largest airline with the cheapest labor. Not bad!

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Hate2fly said:
Hummel was the last straw for me. Hummel didn't get you anything in this deal. He cost you about a hundred grand. The AA guys put this MOU in your pocket. The AA guys think Doug is going to make them the highest paid in the industry with a JCBA. Good luck with that pipe dream. This MOU will be here when you retire. Reed Richards and his buddies along with the Compass boys own this MOU. Every fervent supporter of Hummel owns this bankruptcy MOU. Doug gave the AA guys 575 million for the pension plus a nice tax free 120 thousand each guy. Hey you are going to get $8700 and then pay your taxes. Good job all you Hummel guys.

For the record I have not attended a union meeting since Hummel took office. I pay my dues and that is it.

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[SIZE=10.5pt]You are becoming the ultimate Richard on this forum. If we could post your latest head shot it would complete the horrible distorted and untrue picture you paint. You are small and intellectually ugly man, just like Glynn.  [/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]Over 85% of our pilots voted for the MOU. The MOU was supported by the entire BPR, all of Legal, the Officers, and many Committee chairs. Hummel did not "negotiate" the MOU, East and West pilots did. You are a financial fool if you think just because the APA guys were on the ball enough to get "something" out of their dying pension that YOU somehow deserve a share. Besides, they would not give money to anti-union toads like you, you don't even support the will of 3/4 of your colleagues, in fact you belittle them. And you cheer at Bradford being sold to the West as a political pawn. Disgusting. You are a disgrace to the profession. RR[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]Bob Frear and Paul DiOrio sold out Steve Bradford to the West to get a recall for Hummel. What a low blow. Now they put a vote to the membership to change the voting at USAPA. Instead of being 3 out of 11, they want to give the West MORE voting power by making them a full 1/3 of the voting bloc. They also want to give the West Class a seat at the table in the dissolution of USAPA. Can you all believe this, letting the folks that have sued us for years have a say in the funding of our seniority battle after single carrier status!!?[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]True unthinking idiots, blinded by their petty political ambitions at a dying union. That pretty much sums up DiOrio and Fear. And don't get me started on Borman, supporting Cleary in his raid of our logo and theft of extra vacation.[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]Bob Frear recently told one of his F/O's that he could accept the NIC if he was compensated enough. Wow, thank goodness he QUIT the NAC after not being able to stomach DiOrio as his boss. Unbelievable! You cannot make this stuff up. [/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]The West is having a field day, our own guys selling out the founder for silly political gain. [/SIZE]
 
By the way, we are merging on Monday and you all are getting the single best improvement in your lifestye you have EVER had. I am getting a 60K year raise, and I am supposed to be upset over 10 days of vacation?  Really?  Vote accordingly, or vote for recall becase it "was not enough."
 
RR
 
 
A320 Driver said:
 
Maybe that is why you are so uninformed and think you are owed an equity share. You lost that years ago when your reps passed on the better deal for what ultimately became LOE93.
86% of our pilots ratified that agreement, almost the same that ratifed the MOU.  And you blame the Reps?  It all comes down to votes, not the process.   RR
 
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