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Claxon said:
Judge Silver will issue a ruling based on a company paid puppet, gary hummel. 
 
When the Judge issues her ruling (imminent), or better defined as mediation suggestion, hummel will claim it is time to put this behind us and not appeal her ruling. 
 
hummel will be recalled.  Everyone has to remember that the recall effort started before her ruling.  There are those that will soon claim that the recall was in response to her rulling, it started well before because of the mistrust in hummel.  I will book mark my post and use it often.
Hummel will probably be recalled, to be replaced by a West Pilot.  Don't quite get your Hummel-Silver connection, she hates him for not testifying on opiates. Until he is recalled, Hummel  will appeal any attempt to give the west a seat all the way to SCOTUS. But you have no reason to believe me, especially after my merger predictions. RR
 
Claxon said:
Judge Silver will issue a ruling based on a company paid puppet, gary hummel. 
 
When the Judge issues her ruling (imminent), or better defined as mediation suggestion, hummel will claim it is time to put this behind us and not appeal her ruling. 
 
hummel will be recalled.  Everyone has to remember that the recall effort started before her ruling.  There are those that will soon claim that the recall was in response to her rulling, it started well before because of the mistrust in hummel.  I will book mark my post and use it often.
I refuse to believe that this pilot group will buy in to this recall. DiOrio had his time and he failed. The CLT reps were NOT responsible for the retrospective pay, the APA is. We put McKee and his clowns in as President etc, this pilot group will pay a price...again. Then who will you blame? Blame yourself if you voted in favor of this recall.
 
Crzipilot said:
RR. I copied those to paragraphs from the Usapa web site. No where does any of the items. Mou. Or clarification. Letter From The 18 th. state monies paid. Read it again
Agreed. I was wrong. Any hours you think you deserve paid retro will just "show up" in your next check, just like that!  Click your heels and make it so. Good luck. RR
 
Reed Richards said:
His stand did not matter, he had one vote for ratification just like me (and not like you, since you do not fly). He only signs the completed and ratified agreement. Read the CBL lately? RR
He showed no backbone during the process of requesting retro.  He was afraid to push it.  He has his comfortable future and did not want to chance it. 
 
Reed Richards said:
Hummel will probably be recalled, to be replaced by a West Pilot.  Don't quite get your Hummel-Silver connection, she hates him for not testifying on opiates. Until he is recalled, Hummel  will appeal any attempt to give the west a seat all the way to SCOTUS. But you have no reason to believe me, especially after my merger predictions. RR
You started this revolution but lost your compass.  Your fud about 2003 hire fergusen taking over is an old alpa tactic.
 
Judge Silver is very aware of the hummel company in bed factor (lets move on) and will rule accordingly.
 
A320 Driver said:
I refuse to believe that this pilot group will buy in to this recall. DiOrio had his time and he failed. The CLT reps were NOT responsible for the retrospective pay, the APA is. We put McKee and his clowns in as President etc, this pilot group will pay a price...again. Then who will you blame? Blame yourself if you voted in favor of this recall.
How was apa responsible for retro?  The bpr refused to put it out for a vote, the company offered retro in short order. 
 
You mention McKee, DiOiro as a diversion.  Bottom line it is hummel in recall, not a vote for others.
 
Courage.
 
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
I found out long ago one can have positive bank or QOL.  Bank does little more than make SAP a little easier, but the trade off isn't worth it, IMHO.  I can't remember the time I had positive bank.
 
 
I'm not in the habit of making interest free loans to my employer. 
 
 
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The noses of the company, American pilots and courts, smell a weakness in hummel.  A lot of work ahead, the tired well fed puppet has to go. 
 
traderjake said:
 

 
 
 
I'm not in favor of making interest free loans to my employer. 

 
 
 
I have no idea what you are talking about.  I don't work here.  Even the gracious condescension of RR can't elevate me to understanding.  But I appreciate your apparent attempt to pretend that you don't carry a positive bank, whatever that means in youse guys' world.  😀
 
P.S.  Just like Alex Jones, once in awhile you actually say something intelligent.  I think that is a compliment.  :lol:
 
russ wrote the Texas Attorney General and gave him what for. 
 
He also let the Arizona Attorney General know what for.
 
Sounds like russ is stressed and worried about his families financial problems.
 
russ, you can contact the USAPA assistance fund, they can help you. 
 
Of course you could always try to lobby for a joint checking account within your own familily.
 
"Russ Webber
I am extremely disappointed in the DOJ's attempt to block the merger between Us Airways and American

I never thought that my state representatives would do something that would have such drastic negative affects on my family's income.

If this merger is not allowed to be consummated the long term viability of US Airways is in real doubt. That leaves a weak AA unable to effectively compete with the two mega carriers, while the potential for those two carriers to " get along to get along" is very real.

Allowing the merger to occur ensures a robust American Airlines that will be much more able to compete and hence keep prices in check for the consumer, while keeping over 100,000.0 people employed nation wide with well paying jobs.

At a time when the economy is hardly thriving I find it stunning that the DOJ, along with your mis guided help, would do anything that might impact a single job,let alone thousands.

The mid term elections are coming up and this one issue will be on the minds of the over 100,000.0 union and non union employees alike and will certainly play a part in how we vote!

Regards
Russ Webber
 
https://www.facebook.com/arizonaago/posts/568480009885774
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]I did not mentioned McKee, that a "tell" on your part. Retro came from the UCC. A deal was made, one the CLT reps reneged on one day before the MOU election closed. How can CLT claim credit for that ,when they betrayed the UCC?  I will tell you why, because they had nothing to do with retro, other than taking false credit. Maybe some fine morning over coffee Jack will fill you in.    The CLT reps were a known quantity, all the parties saw them for the obstructionist they were.  And all the parties knew once the line pilots got a vote, it was a done deal. All knew the line pilots were light years smarter than Crimi, McKee, and Dewitt. The CLT reps acted exactly as predicted, and voted exactly as desired by all to send out the MOU. Any single USAPA rep could have stopped the deal, yet none did.  I think those looking for payoffs should look across the table from Hummel, at the BPR. Why in the heck did CLT and PHL ever, ever ratify?  RR[/SIZE]
 
 
Claxon said:
How was apa responsible for retro?  The bpr refused to put it out for a vote, the company offered retro in short order. 
 
You mention McKee, DiOiro as a diversion.  Bottom line it is hummel in recall, not a vote for others.
 
Courage.
 
 
Reed Richards said:
[SIZE=10.5pt]I did not mentioned McKee, that a "tell" on your part. Retro came from the UCC. A deal was made, one the CLT reps reneged on one day before the MOU election closed. How can CLT claim credit for that ,when they betrayed the UCC?  I will tell you why, because they had nothing to do with retro, other than taking false credit. Maybe some fine morning over coffee Jack will fill you in.    The CLT reps were a known quantity, all the parties saw them for the obstructionist they were.  And all the parties knew once the line pilots got a vote, it was a done deal. All knew the line pilots were light years smarter than Crimi, McKee, and Dewitt. The CLT reps acted exactly as predicted, and voted exactly as desired by all to send out the MOU. Any single USAPA rep could have stopped the deal, yet none did.  I think those looking for payoffs should look across the table from Hummel, at the BPR. Why in the heck did CLT and PHL ever, ever ratify?  RR[/SIZE]
 
 
 
hummels stance on retro pay?
 
Reed Richards said:
[SIZE=10.5pt]Retro came from the UCC. A deal was made, one the CLT reps reneged on one day before the MOU election closed. How can CLT claim credit for that ,when they betrayed the UCC? [/SIZE]
 
How can they take credit for something they recommended voting against?
 
Played.
 
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