[SIZE=10.5pt]I did not mentioned McKee, that a "tell" on your part. Retro came from the UCC. A deal was made, one the CLT reps reneged on one day before the MOU election closed. How can CLT claim credit for that ,when they betrayed the UCC? I will tell you why, because they had nothing to do with retro, other than taking false credit. Maybe some fine morning over coffee Jack will fill you in. The CLT reps were a known quantity, all the parties saw them for the obstructionist they were. And all the parties knew once the line pilots got a vote, it was a done deal. All knew the line pilots were light years smarter than Crimi, McKee, and Dewitt. The CLT reps acted exactly as predicted, and voted exactly as desired by all to send out the MOU. Any single USAPA rep could have stopped the deal, yet none did. I think those looking for payoffs should look across the table from Hummel, at the BPR. Why in the heck did CLT and PHL ever, ever ratify? RR[/SIZE]