Garfield1966
Veteran
Buck,
First off I want to say this. Some of the distrust toward management is warranted. I feel a large part of this is due to the hiring process that AA has. Most of my supervisors in the past have never done my job do not have the faintest idea what it is that I do and yet they are giving me a performance review or laying down performance goals for my position. SOC is the first time I have had a senior who has done my job. My manager has never been in my shoes but maybe that is too much to ask (sarcasm intended). I think this leads to decisions that we can probably all agree come from left field. I do not trust management to do the right thing if it will affect them adversely but I think that can be said for most people. People tend to watch out for them selves and the rest be damned. That is unfortunate but it is the society in which we live. I do not trust them to tell me the truth. I am not in your shoes (the collective union shoes) so I do not know what your gripes are but I imagine that these are probably on the list.
Now for my issues with you (the collective you).
I distrust unions to watch for the good of the whole (the company) over the good of the few. As an example, we all work with people who we know should be fired. We have had a house cleaning several times since I have been up here. I have had FA’s who have been sick every holiday. That is grounds for termination as far as I am concerned, but no one does a damn thing about it. The people who non reved when on the sick list should be fired. We all know what the intent of the policy is, yet they weaseled out of it on a technicality.
I also have a problem with employees telling employers what they will be paid, what their work rules will be … etc. This is not the 1800’s or early 1900’s where there was child labor, sweat shops … etc. It’s strikes me as absurd that for example, FedEx, which is a privately own company can be strong armed by it’s union work force and be told that either you pay us “x†amount or we will walk. To me that is like your kids telling you either you pay us $10 to mow the lawn or you can just watch the rain forest sprout up in your back yard. If I think my services are worth more than what my employer is willing to pay me I have the option of seeking a job else where. While I am on the topic. I do not care what crew schedulers make at Delta, United, South West or any other carrier. I do not know what they make and it make no difference. I do not work for that airline. I work for AA. If I wanted the salary from a South West employee, I would have to work for that airline. So when I hear someone bitching about how much some other airline is paying their employees and we should make more on our next contract, it just makes me want to puke.
There seems to be an entitlement mentality on the top end of management and among union members. The economy sucks. Fuel prices are through the roof and with the Shrub in office, I would not hold my breath for that to change in our favor. We are all doing more work for less money. I am, you are and so is damn near everyone else in this company as well as the entire industry. These idiots who say that they would rather be out of a job than give up another dime scare the hell out of me. I have never been unemployed. If you don’t like the job, get the hell out. I like what I do. Been with AA for nearly 20 years and I plan on retiring with AA if they are still around.
I distinctly recall when I was hired being asked if I would be willing to work weekends, holidays, nights, overtime … basically any day in the letter “yâ€. I said yes. I was aware that the air line operated 364 days and that was 364 IN A ROW. I have worked ever major holiday sine I have been here due to the fact that the departments I have been in thumb their nose at my seniority. There are people in my department who have been with AA for longer than I have been alive. I have not had the pleasure of spending a holiday with my family on the day when that holiday actually happens. Life sucks but that’s what I signed on for so we deal with it. Not sure about other departments but in crew skd the FA sick list will double during X-mass and New Years. THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIRED!!! And those of you who show up for work and have to pick up the slack for them should be pissed off. You should be breaking down the doors of your union reps and demanding accountability. I had some SOB call in sick for the next 4 days and t just so happens that he is on VC afterward. He got pissed at me for not being warm and fuzzy on the phone as he was screwing over his fellow workers. Good Grief. If I did that, I’d be out on my ass so fast it would make my head spin.
I have not seen a raise in 5 years (not counting the 1.5% we got this year) and I had to sit by as the unions were getting their raises from the previous contract. And then some had the never when we did not get as big a cut.
First off I want to say this. Some of the distrust toward management is warranted. I feel a large part of this is due to the hiring process that AA has. Most of my supervisors in the past have never done my job do not have the faintest idea what it is that I do and yet they are giving me a performance review or laying down performance goals for my position. SOC is the first time I have had a senior who has done my job. My manager has never been in my shoes but maybe that is too much to ask (sarcasm intended). I think this leads to decisions that we can probably all agree come from left field. I do not trust management to do the right thing if it will affect them adversely but I think that can be said for most people. People tend to watch out for them selves and the rest be damned. That is unfortunate but it is the society in which we live. I do not trust them to tell me the truth. I am not in your shoes (the collective union shoes) so I do not know what your gripes are but I imagine that these are probably on the list.
Now for my issues with you (the collective you).
I distrust unions to watch for the good of the whole (the company) over the good of the few. As an example, we all work with people who we know should be fired. We have had a house cleaning several times since I have been up here. I have had FA’s who have been sick every holiday. That is grounds for termination as far as I am concerned, but no one does a damn thing about it. The people who non reved when on the sick list should be fired. We all know what the intent of the policy is, yet they weaseled out of it on a technicality.
I also have a problem with employees telling employers what they will be paid, what their work rules will be … etc. This is not the 1800’s or early 1900’s where there was child labor, sweat shops … etc. It’s strikes me as absurd that for example, FedEx, which is a privately own company can be strong armed by it’s union work force and be told that either you pay us “x†amount or we will walk. To me that is like your kids telling you either you pay us $10 to mow the lawn or you can just watch the rain forest sprout up in your back yard. If I think my services are worth more than what my employer is willing to pay me I have the option of seeking a job else where. While I am on the topic. I do not care what crew schedulers make at Delta, United, South West or any other carrier. I do not know what they make and it make no difference. I do not work for that airline. I work for AA. If I wanted the salary from a South West employee, I would have to work for that airline. So when I hear someone bitching about how much some other airline is paying their employees and we should make more on our next contract, it just makes me want to puke.
There seems to be an entitlement mentality on the top end of management and among union members. The economy sucks. Fuel prices are through the roof and with the Shrub in office, I would not hold my breath for that to change in our favor. We are all doing more work for less money. I am, you are and so is damn near everyone else in this company as well as the entire industry. These idiots who say that they would rather be out of a job than give up another dime scare the hell out of me. I have never been unemployed. If you don’t like the job, get the hell out. I like what I do. Been with AA for nearly 20 years and I plan on retiring with AA if they are still around.
I distinctly recall when I was hired being asked if I would be willing to work weekends, holidays, nights, overtime … basically any day in the letter “yâ€. I said yes. I was aware that the air line operated 364 days and that was 364 IN A ROW. I have worked ever major holiday sine I have been here due to the fact that the departments I have been in thumb their nose at my seniority. There are people in my department who have been with AA for longer than I have been alive. I have not had the pleasure of spending a holiday with my family on the day when that holiday actually happens. Life sucks but that’s what I signed on for so we deal with it. Not sure about other departments but in crew skd the FA sick list will double during X-mass and New Years. THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE FIRED!!! And those of you who show up for work and have to pick up the slack for them should be pissed off. You should be breaking down the doors of your union reps and demanding accountability. I had some SOB call in sick for the next 4 days and t just so happens that he is on VC afterward. He got pissed at me for not being warm and fuzzy on the phone as he was screwing over his fellow workers. Good Grief. If I did that, I’d be out on my ass so fast it would make my head spin.
I have not seen a raise in 5 years (not counting the 1.5% we got this year) and I had to sit by as the unions were getting their raises from the previous contract. And then some had the never when we did not get as big a cut.
