Work On Nwa Jets?

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

So Bill, when are you gonna file those "kangaroo" court union charges against me. You said you were "Gonna get AMFA traitors like me kicked out of the TWU!". I would really like to find out who you are since you TWU "worshippers" finally figured out who I am. What's taking you so long? It should be an easy conviction, since the TWU can't handle the truth!

 

[High Speed Steel]

So Bill, when are you gonna file those "kangaroo" court union charges against me. You said you were "Gonna get AMFA traitors like me kicked out of the TWU!". I would really like to find out who you are since you TWU "worshippers" finally figured out who I am. What's taking you so long? It should be an easy conviction, since the TWU can't handle the truth!

Or there is the possibility princess that "nobody cares" Enough resourceses have been wasted <_<

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Hate to break the news to you but your really wasting your time if you are sending your resume in. That's assuming of course you are doing so. I suspect you are not. However if you are with the number of people waiting for recall your resume probably ends up in some shedder over at HR. There probably annoyed that your wasting their time. Your name probably is on an un-official "blacklist" becasue of it.

Wow that really gives the New Generation of A&Ps something to look forward to. Your unions really do a lot for drawing people to the industry.

 

[Vortilon]

PTO,

New generation of AMTs? They are unemployed right now... Anybody thinking of coming into this profession would do well to reconsider. Already, several AMT schools have closed nationwide. For many that still have programs, Spartan, Embry Riddle, etc. - who in their right mind, is going to drop over $20,000.00 only to get out and make a few more bucks an hour than a baggage handler? Scabs like you willing to downgrade the profession by screwwing fellow AMTs are why this has happened....

 

[PlayTheOdds]

What does me scabbing here at NWA have anything to do with the 3000 laid off employees at AA with 10 year recall rights? How many mechanics here at NWA were laid off with recall rights? Sorry Vortilon but the problem is much deeper than me scabbing for NWA.

 

[777 fixer]

Wow that really gives the New Generation of A&Ps something to look forward to. Your unions really do a lot for drawing people to the industry.

Actually it has nothing to do with the "unions". Maybe your new to the industry, I suspect that this is the case since you had to work for NWA and could'nt get a job somewhere else, but the number of new A&P entering the profession was droping even in the economic boom of the 90's. Please show me how "your unions" could have done to change this fact.

What are the "unions" going to tell young people looking for a profession? Tell them that they can spend thousands of dollars on school and all they have to look forward to is either unemployment or an FBO or third party shop. Even when times are "good" you can't change some of the realities of this industry. Like working nights, working in the elements, working weekends or working holidays.

What does me scabbing here at NWA have anything to do with the 3000 laid off employees at AA with 10 year recall rights? How many mechanics here at NWA were laid off with recall rights? Sorry Vortilon but the problem is much deeper than me scabbing for NWA.

Yes the problem is deeper than you scabbing. I find your statement odd since you try and lay blame on the decreased number of people entering the A&P profession on the "unions".

 

[PlayTheOdds]

I find your statement odd since you try and lay blame on the decreased number of people entering the A&P profession on the "unions".

I am not trying to lay the blame on the unions though they do hold some of it. You can't say that they don't when you have a company locked out for new hires for the next 10 years. Wouldn't you think that would be discouraging for anyone wanting to enter the industry?

 

[local 12 proud]

Wouldn't you think that would be discouraging for anyone wanting to enter the industry?

I would think anyone choosing to enter this industry at this stage will be discouraged no matter what, I certainly would'nt advise It!

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

I am not trying to lay the blame on the unions though they do hold some of it. You can't say that they don't when you have a company locked out for new hires for the next 10 years. Wouldn't you think that would be discouraging for anyone wanting to enter the industry?

Well too bad PTO. Those people on the recall list were already hired at AA and have recall rights. Something you filthy,rotten,ignorant,stupid,back-stabbing,pot smoking,booze drinking, scabs will never have. Scabs,like you PTO, are "THE" reason the AMT profession is dying. Even contract work is going downhill because of scabs like you. Contractors in aviation a long time ago used to be good people. Knowing that the unionized mechanics were the ones keeping the wages and benefits up in the the industry, they would never cross a picket line. Now Contract mechanics are bottom of the barrel lowlifes, who would screw their own grandmother for a hamburger.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Why hello my beloved Princess. What an honor it is to be addressed by you personally. I figured I stood at the top of your ignore list. I am sure you have bitten your tongue to the point blood was drawn many times. I am glad that you find me so irresistible that you must quit hiding behind the curtain and step forward to address me. Welcome back, I have so missed how you have made an art out of flaming. NH/BB, DEAD BIRD and Big E just to name a few are mere wannabe amateurs compared to you. Although your posts are most outlandish I think they carry a certain amount of class with a feverish passion that I find most intriguing. Welcome back Princess.

Your recall rights, which you are so proud of, has crippled the industry along with unions demand of putting seniority above productivity. It goes against the laws of nature and therefore doomed to fail. In nature it is the strong that survive, not the weak and the petty. Your recall rights stunt the natural growth of the industry thus making it weak to the point that it isn't worth anything to anyone but the vultures. You guys are killing your chosen industry slowly but surely.

One last note Princess: Your Avatar is most hideous, I think you should find one with a bit more class. 😉 I'm ready for that hamburger anytime you are. Have A Nice Day.

 

[777 fixer]

I am not trying to lay the blame on the unions though they do hold some of it. You can't say that they don't when you have a company locked out for new hires for the next 10 years. Wouldn't you think that would be discouraging for anyone wanting to enter the industry?

You're naive to believe that the recall system dsicourages people from entering the airline industry. As I mentioned before it has more to do with working nights, holidays, in bad weather and the turbulent nature of the airline industry. Don't forget that one can make more money in other technical fields and have a somewhat normal life compared to the airlines.

By the way if you think the recall system is a bad thing what do you purpose in it's place? Maybe a system where if your laid off all ties to the company is terminated and in order to get back on board you have to start off like any other Joe off the street? That would go over real well. <_<

 

[777 fixer]

Your recall rights, which you are so proud of, has crippled the industry along with unions demand of putting seniority above productivity. It goes against the laws of nature and therefore doomed to fail. In nature it is the strong that survive, not the weak and the petty. Your recall rights stunt the natural growth of the industry thus making it weak to the point that it isn't worth anything to anyone but the vultures. You guys are killing your chosen industry slowly but surely.

Recall rights are a pathological obession for you are'nt they. You say that it's one of the reasons the airline industry is in such bad shape yet you offer no evidence to support that claim. By the way, how long have you actaully worked in the airline industry. Are your beliefs based on longtime expereince or something you heard.

When it comes down to it the sucess or failure of an airline can be traced to decisions made by the people running it. Unions do not decide which type aircraft to buy or how many types one has in thie fleet. As well all know the more types the higher the cost. Unions do not decide which routes to fly or what to charge for those flights. Unions do not decide what percentage of thier fuel costs they should hedge. Those are functions of management

 

[Bagbelt]

So PTO I guess we'll just put anyone who gets old or sick in concentration camps where they will learn the value of work while fresh young cadres take over as we move into a shining future.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

You say that it's one of the reasons the airline industry is in such bad shape yet you offer no evidence to support that claim.

Let me lay a scenario out for you:

A company has 900 employees on furlough 10 positions open-up the first five guys on the seniority list are the most worthless clock riding mechanics you can think of the next three are average hard working mechanics the last two are exceptional mechanics. The company receives twenty new resumes from exceptional mechanics also.

Who gets the job?

I understand that this is an extreme case scenario but it is plausible and I am sure that a similar setting as taken place at one time or another.

So PTO I guess we'll just put anyone who gets old or sick in concentration camps where they will learn the value of work while fresh young cadres take over as we move into a shining future.

That is not what I am saying, Bagbelt. I simply believe that a company should have the right to choose.

 

[777 fixer]

Let me lay a scenario out for you:

A company has 900 employees on furlough 10 positions open-up the first five guys on the seniority list are the most worthless clock riding mechanics you can think of the next three are average hard working mechanics the last two are exceptional mechanics. The company receives twenty new resumes from exceptional mechanics also.

Who gets the job?

I understand that this is an extreme case scenario but it is plausible and I am sure that a similar setting as taken place at one time or another.
That is not what I am saying, Bagbelt. I simply believe that a company should have the right to choose.

I ask for evidence to support your position and this is what you provide? Soory but you will have to come up with something better.