AFA labor discussion (Work related)

[MyrnaMinkoff]

It seems that the tribe has spoken, Flores won't be permitted to offer Crowley the final rose, and she's already used her three helps: Phone-a-Friend, Ask the Audience and Fifty-Fifty! Unlike the dignified exodus provisions made for a jilted bachelor-ette, I understand no limousine service has been engaged to spirit-away our own histrionic single girl, but if she hurries, she might be able to flag down the smoky, diesel-fueled bus headed for the training center, a recurrent program is surely in order! Or am I to understand that she will retire? Will she never know the prestige and respect commanded when clad head-to-toe in the Stan Hermann for US Airways collection? The magic of a ten-hour Newark overnight? The sheer delight of baggage problems? Senor Miguel should be jittery. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have protest ballads to compose. What rhymes with Flores?

 

[flybynite]

It seems that the tribe has spoken, Flores won't be permitted to offer Crowley the final rose, and she's already used her three helps: Phone-a-Friend, Ask the Audience and Fifty-Fifty! Unlike the dignified exodus provisions made for a jilted bachelor-ette, I understand no limousine service has been engaged to spirit-away our own histrionic single girl, but if she hurries, she might be able to flag down the smoky, diesel-fueled bus headed for the training center, a recurrent program is surely in order! Or am I to understand that she will retire? Will she never know the prestige and respect commanded when clad head-to-toe in the Stan Hermann for US Airways collection? The magic of a ten-hour Newark overnight? The sheer delight of baggage problems? Senor Miguel should be jittery. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have protest ballads to compose. What rhymes with Flores?

I don't know the results yet but if what if what is being is true.....I have a question for you. Just how old do you "think' Ann is? She's younger than me. And I'm not old.

You're just being scanky. Ann retire? Why? Are you one of those people that thinks that you're over 30 you can't be trusted or have any worth? Shut up.

 

[MyrnaMinkoff]

I don't know the results yet but if what if what is being is true.....I have a question for you. Just how old do you "think' Ann is? She's younger than me. And I'm not old.

You're just being scanky. Ann retire? Why? Are you one of those people that thinks that you're over 30 you can't be trusted or have any worth? Shut up.

What??? What does "I don't know the results yet but if what if what is being true....." mean? Perhaps you should work on your writing skills. I can't glean the nature of your specific beef with me unless you clarify, though "shut up" comes across loud and clear. I'm not sure where you've gotten the idea that I am a under thirty; a cursory examination of the seniority list might help you understand the likelihood of that is virtually nil. No sir or ma'am, I'm quite long in the tooth, I was merely alluding to a comment posted earlier that seemed to indicate Ms. Crowley might choose to retire. Your playground retorts are the equivalent of an angry toddler pounding his rubbery fist against his bemused mother's breast, and in this scenario, I am the bemused mother. Flores, you're next.

 

[KARL ROVER]

What??? What does "I don't know the results yet but if what if what is being true....." mean? Perhaps you should work on your writing skills. I can't glean the nature of your specific beef with me unless you clarify, though "shut up" comes across loud and clear. I'm not sure where you've gotten the idea that I am a under thirty; a cursory examination of the seniority list might help you understand the likelihood of that is virtually nil. No sir or ma'am, I'm quite long in the tooth, I was merely alluding to a comment posted earlier that seemed to indicate Ms. Crowley might choose to retire. Your playground retorts are the equivalent of an angry toddler pounding his rubbery fist against his bemused mother's breast, and in this scenario, I am the bemused mother. Flores, you're next.

Yes Myrna, The Jack Daniels is flowing heavily this evening in CLT. For some it is in jubilation for others it is preparing for the next Sunami. This is just the first step for the members taking back their Union. Should put all those who claim entitlement to their Union posts on notice. You will either work for your pay or sign up for the next Requal training session in CLT. They just may need to schedule an extra section for all those returning to the line.

 

[KARL ROVER]

One of the rumors I heard was that if Cathy won all the other officers in CLT were going to resign. Maybe we'll get a new VP and SEC?

A rumor is just that skycat. This is where the rubber meets the road. We will see if the allegiance to Ann is really there. I would bet not. All those marshmallows in the CLT office are only there because it works best for their domestic situations. None of them are in that office for US. They will only leave the office and resign their post if they take their flight pay away from them. If I were a gambler I would bet none will give up their cushy situations and they wont even look back for Ann. Too much cut throat and we arent lucky enough to have them all resign.

 

[700UW]

She will probably just go into a management job.

 

[Furloughd4now]

I don't know the results yet but if what if what is being is true.....I have a question for you. Just how old do you "think' Ann is? She's younger than me. And I'm not old.

You're just being scanky. Ann retire? Why? Are you one of those people that thinks that you're over 30 you can't be trusted or have any worth? Shut up.

Anne is on the far right....This pic was taken"a long time ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Aay." You are Younger than this? Good for you ;-)) Heck, we were all younger the year this pic was taken

 

[songbirdstew]

Congratulations to Cathy! We'll see if she's a drama queen or the next Mesiah. Got my fingers crossed. I'll believe the others will resign when I see it. Everyone I talked to thought we should be able to vote on all the positions. Hope this not only puts Mike on notice but also the company. As I have said for the past three years, I can only hope to picket against the company-got my 4 inch heels (oops, not complaint 3 inch heels on) ready to rock!!

and when they find out she is not the Messiah but just plain nuts they will string Cathy up in 3-4 years too. The company is laughing their butts off at this whole situation. While Ann needed to go, Cathy was not the answer. Good luck to all in CLT.

 

[Glucose Intolerant]

The company is laughing their butts off at this whole situation. While Ann needed to go, Cathy was not the answer. Good luck to all in CLT.

They said pretty much the same about Teddy Xidas - and she turned out being one of the better MEC presidents and flight attendant advocates in recent history.

 

[700UW]

Teddy was the strongest labor leader by far of any union on US property.

If the rank and file was smart, they would make the AFA hire her to run negotiations.

She is one tough and terrific lady, she has all union members in heart, even ones not in the AFA, I witnessed it first hand.

 

[Career Reserve]

Teddy was the strongest labor leader by far of any union on US property.

If the rank and file was smart, they would make the AFA hire her to run negotiations.

She is one tough and terrific lady, she has all union members in heart, even ones not in the AFA, I witnessed it first hand

Cathy is like Teddy in so far as she has the best interest of flt attendants at heart. She will bring that same selfless passion to the table and I look forward to the other bases following suit.

 

[songbirdstew]

Teddy was the strongest labor leader by far of any union on US property.

If the rank and file was smart, they would make the AFA hire her to run negotiations.

She is one tough and terrific lady, she has all union members in heart, even ones not in the AFA, I witnessed it first hand.

If Teddy has such a heart for unions then why didn't she give up her travel privileges to come back here and run for LECP in PHL or CLT with this latest recall ??? She had the chance and decided against it so while I like the lady, she is not THAT dedicated.

In addition, why do posts always go back to Teddy---how long has she been gone ??? Hello !!????! or is it that she is going to try to run the union through Cathy in CLT so you people keep bringing her up ????

 

[songbirdstew]

On another note---why are they wasting our time and money with a recall vote in PHL ?? I just got my proxy votes in the mail from national. The new election is right around the corner and the recall is actually going to delay the new election until this recall vote is finished. I was told the whole recall process will cost over 10K.....

 

[beachboy]

On another note---why are they wasting our time and money with a recall vote in PHL ?? I just got my proxy votes in the mail from national. The new election is right around the corner and the recall is actually going to delay the new election until this recall vote is finished. I was told the whole recall process will cost over 10K.....

Because over 1/3 of the PHL membership are displeased with John, Grace and Omar? The bylaws say we have the right to remedy that by petitioning for recall from office. We begged them to listen about voting issues, JNC issues and sitting in the crew rooms to talk with us. We asked for over a year only to be told they know best. They refused and obviously don't know their most basic job duty. So, we have the right to have the meeting to recall them and then ask the entire base to weigh in.

If they did the right thing, they would agree not to run again in the new cycle and go away. Their ego's arrive two days before they do so that's off the table. They won't resign. Meanwhile, Austin and Flores sit there with no shame in the game watching a lot of this unfold because of them. They all know they are going to a Stan Herman fitting so why not inflict the most damage as they exit as a final flip off to us as a group? That's what you are dealing with here. No way to sugar coat it.
Call John, Omar and Grace and ask them to save us the $$$. See how far you get.

 

[songbirdstew]

Because over 1/3 of the PHL membership are displeased with John, Grace and Omar? The bylaws say we have the right to remedy that by petitioning for recall from office. We begged them to listen about voting issues, JNC issues and sitting in the crew rooms to talk with us. We asked for over a year only to be told they know best. They refused and obviously don't know their most basic job duty. So, we have the right to have the meeting to recall them and then ask the entire base to weigh in.

If they did the right thing, they would agree not to run again in the new cycle and go away. Their ego's arrive two days before they do so that's off the table. They won't resign. Meanwhile, Austin and Flores sit there with no shame in the game watching a lot of this unfold because of them. They all know they are going to a Stan Herman fitting so why not inflict the most damage as they exit as a final flip off to us as a group? That's what you are dealing with here. No way to sugar coat it.
Call John, Omar and Grace and ask them to save us the $$$. See how far you get.

You're not getting me. When the first recall attempt failed due to forged signatures and members not being in good standing, someone should have looked at the calendar and said "hey, elections will be coming up the same time this recall will be held~~let's just have the base vote them out of office and save the membership the money and time."

However, now the election is being pushed back for a recall that is somewhat of a mute point. After the recall they are still allowed to run for office. You say that 1/3 of the base is unhappy with what they've done, but what happens if 2/3 of the base is happy with how they've done (just hypothetically because I know I'm not) then after the recall they can get voted right back in. It's been a waste of time and money.

The election was coming up anyway....and no, they did not choose to resign but it's just my opinion that those who forced the recall at such a late date are being just as vindictive as John, Grace and Omar and stooping to their level by wasting time that should be given to a new election for the PHL members voices and votes to be counted.

If they didn't have to push the new election back to take care of this back stabbing business, we'd have new blood in office a lot sooner.