IAM Fleet Service Topic 6/7-6/13

[roadtrip]

I don't think HNL has completed the voting yet, have they? Isn't there one more local to vote? The big one?

There are 2 lodges in the Islands Lodge 1979 voted yesterday in favor of ND08 it is made up of UA and Hawaiian Airlines workers.

The other lodge 1245 is made up from a Bankrupt Aloha airlines now outta business. How the hell can you be eligable to vote when your employer does not exist anymore? This is where the word Evil comes to mind when Canale would allow votes to be cast at this lodge.

This is the sorta sh!t that pisses the workers off and why we hate the district officers so much.

 

[roadtrip]

To answer your question, I suppose for the same reason our new direction 08 local has a sec/treasurer that has been unemployed by an IAM employer for the past two years. 😱

Huh? "new direction 08 local has a sec/treasurer that has been unemployed"? What the heck are you talking about you have me confused with your statement.

Could you be more specific to explain what your trying to say?

Thanks

RT

 

[ezchkin]

There are 2 lodges in the Islands Lodge 1979 voted yesterday in favor of ND08 it is made up of UA and Hawaiian Airlines workers.

The other lodge 1245 is made up from a Bankrupt Aloha airlines now outta business. How the hell can you be eligable to vote when your employer does not exist anymore? This is where the word Evil comes to mind when Canale would allow votes to be cast at this lodge.

This is the sorta sh!t that pisses the workers off and why we hate the district officers so much.

Not to be disrespectful, but it's a shame to diss our brothers and sisters in HNL due to their failed airline. They did everything in their power to keep their airline flying. The state of Hawaii/Legislaters/investors are working tirelessly to get them back. They are the pride of Hawaii. An airline can cease operating but still hold open their flight certificate and return to business at any time. They are more eligible to vote than a terminated employee holding office for a new direction city. You can't have it both ways.

 

[cltrat]

There are 2 lodges in the Islands Lodge 1979 voted yesterday in favor of ND08 it is made up of UA and Hawaiian Airlines workers.

The other lodge 1245 is made up from a Bankrupt Aloha airlines now outta business. How the hell can you be eligable to vote when your employer does not exist anymore? This is where the word Evil comes to mind when Canale would allow votes to be cast at this lodge.

This is the sorta sh!t that pisses the workers off and why we hate the district officers so much.

this is the sort of sh!t that makes the membership want to turn RC into Jimmy Hoffa what lying crooked douche bag this guy is

 

[JoeDirt]

If I am not mistaken SEA, STL, BOS, DFW and SAT all voted today. Any word as to how the vote went?

 

[Hey.. Chill Out]

Chill
I have a question. I know what our load plans call for but what is the best way to load a PHX flight? Locals in one end and Express and on line transfers in the other. If you work in LAS, LAX, DEN or SFO or any other station your input would be welcome.

If it's a hub, we load the plane depending on how many bags we have, how much mail/cargo we have, and how much weight we have been given.

The majority of the time we have all of one of the same bag plus some mail, so its bags in back, mail and cargo in the front unless we can fit it all in the back.

I can do connecting bags on one side of the aft bin, local on the other, with cargo in the front. Sometimes I put all cargo, mail, and bags in the backm usually the bags loaded first so the runners can get their stuff and go!

If I have 60 bags, I just lump them in, I hardly stack, but I don;t throw them to the back of the bin! PHX has a stellar and strong crew, we make darn sure that if we have minimal bags, that we don't have 2 people up in the bin, its a waste of manpower.

Sometimes locals in the front, connecting in the back, and the other way around.

I guess we go on a few basic principals, loading is very black and white. Keep all of the bags together, DON'T MIX, wheels toward the wall, and load the bags as if you were the one to unload them.

We just simply keep the connecting bags at the bottom of the belt and load them in with the locals, but we make sure the people unloading know where the connects end and the locals begin.

Our methodologies are clearly different, as our runners roll their eyes when they have to do an east flight haha!

 

[mike33]

Is this an effort of the team-lead to do what is logical and switch the bags around, like in example 2, or is the company/weight and balance advocating something different?

I think this is where the initiave should start, when this stuff gets fixed, when common sense is used, then we improve our operations.

Yes Chill...it starts with whomever is reponsible for the load of the flt. I can guarantee that the easy way out is to load it just as clp planned and not knowing
that they have saved a little wgt for themselves because they might not trust you. The initiative is to call them and ask. We on the west are just so used to loading all the conx in one bin that it has carried over to affect the east in a more dificult way. I hate using east and west but the system forces us to. We'll never get our SH*T right until we're properly trained. Phx is not a designated zone city so after mapper left sabre doesnt know you, as a hub ( so to speak )

Good luck! If you can change this it will be a good thing. I worked TDY Maui and met a Team lead there so look him up and ask him about it. I gave him
alot of info. I'm sure you can find out who he is or let me know and I'll PM you.

Mike

 

[roadtrip]

Not to be disrespectful, but it's a shame to diss our brothers and sisters in HNL due to their failed airline. They did everything in their power to keep their airline flying. The state of Hawaii/Legislaters/investors are working tirelessly to get them back. They are the pride of Hawaii. An airline can cease operating but still hold open their flight certificate and return to business at any time. They are more eligible to vote than a terminated employee holding office for a new direction city. You can't have it both ways.

Not being Disrespectful at all to FORMER Aloha workers. They were dealt a sh!t hand by a management that sucked them dry over the years and Canale and crew had nothing left to give away they gave it away years before.

I heard Workers in the end were down to 7 bucks an hour and lost countless bennnies medical etc. I doubt very much that the workers will be back its a dead operation like Eastern or Branff. I can see Retired Aloha folks before the demise to be eligable but not the whole workforce. When your doors close your outta business thats it game over.

As far as any termination case they are more eligable than any bankrupt outta business airline workers. There jobs are gone permently.

 

[JoeDirt]

Cltrat
I was off today was there any discussion about the up coming vote?

 

[mike33]

If it's a hub, we load the plane depending on how many bags we have, how much mail/cargo we have, and how much weight we have been given.

The majority of the time we have all of one of the same bag plus some mail, so its bags in back, mail and cargo in the front unless we can fit it all in the back.

Chill...lets start there.....do you pull up the DRCP ? If you do then take a look at the top-middle of it. It says when loading something like

" BI/BL/BE should be loaded in the same bin and BO (which are BM ) in a different bin unless WB won't allow " or something like that. Sabre is a calculater. Try and play around with the load. I think you guys have that capability in the jetways right? Isn't it better to have 3 runners or so at the rear and 2 upfront than to have all 5 at one bin. I am only guessing on how clt/phl run there bags.

 

[cltrat]

Cltrat
I was off today was there any discussion about the up coming vote?

myself and a former Pit guy were talking it up and you see many peeps wearing ND08 stuff but to be honest I worry how serious this is to get as many out as possible to vote .we can not let up tomorrow I can't stand to be screwed by the Great Ass again

 

[JoeDirt]

ATTENTION CLT

I know there are many of you that read this board on a regular basis. It cannot be stressed enough how important our vote is Thursday.

Talk to everyone you come in contact with and tell them how important this is going to be. If you work the gates talk to the runners that come by

your gate. If you work in ABR you have the opportunity to see numerous people on your rounds. Talk to others in the breakrooms and lets get

the biggest turnout we have ever had on a vote. We have the unique chance to drive the final nail in Canale's coffin. Lets not let that slip away.

 

[cltrat]

ATTENTION CLT

I know there are many of you that read this board on a regular basis. It cannot be stressed enough how important our vote is Thursday.

Talk to everyone you come in contact with and tell them how important this is going to be. If you work the gates talk to the runners that come by

your gate. If you work in ABR you have the opportunity to see numerous people on your rounds. Talk to others in the breakrooms and lets get

the biggest turnout we have ever had on a vote. We have the unique chance to drive the final nail in Canale's coffin. Lets not let that slip away.

All you guys and gals who sit there and #### about how many times you've been lied to, how much you have given back ,just to have smoke blew up your backside. this is your chance to get the person responsible for it back.
are you going to let this chance pass you by while you sit on your a** in the breakroom or are you going to step up and be heard??

 

[Ramp Rogue]

CHILL....I will give you a good example of some of the problems it creates for zone cities

Pull up.......... DRH*254/10 PHL........in decs
Notice the load is BI77 in AC and BI11 in FC....I think we all know that it's suppose to be BO ?
Move down and notice that there is no bin location to distinguish what desinations are where?
so i would have to wait for the whole A/C to be offloaded if i was looking for specific bags!

NEXT EX:

Pull up..........DRH*307/10 CLT........
Notice All the conx are in the rear........there were 55 BE and 45 BM....up front were 40 BL...
Why not swap the BM with BL and the load/wgt/cg is basically the same........
As it is now, CLT runners have to wait for all conx to be off loaded....where if they were in separate bins like they should be, they can just go when their bin is off loaded.......

NEXT EX:

Pull up..........DRH*161/10 PHL........
Notice and compare. The offload matches the CONX load on the bottom where some CONX are in
the FWD bin but are identified by the FC.

Mike,

Loading or unloading a plane would be much simpler if all transfers were in one bin and all locals were in the other. Also all mail in one bin and all freight in the other. But due to someone's bright idea, some cities want the express transfers and some online transfers loaded with the locals, and some cities want them loaded with the online transfers. When you have very few bagroom agents, bags tend to get on the right plane but possibly mixed up. All transfers in one bin, all locals in the other. Everyone should be happy with the load like that. How about doing away with clp, and let us go back to doing our operations locally?

 

[mike33]

ATTENTION CLT

I know there are many of you that read this board on a regular basis. It cannot be stressed enough how important our vote is Thursday.

Talk to everyone you come in contact with and tell them how important this is going to be. If you work the gates talk to the runners that come by

your gate. If you work in ABR you have the opportunity to see numerous people on your rounds. Talk to others in the breakrooms and lets get

the biggest turnout we have ever had on a vote. We have the unique chance to drive the final nail in Canale's coffin. Lets not let that slip away.

CLT

I can honestly say that there are many in the west who are counting on you to LIBERATE.....We don't have the numbers out here as individual stations because many in the west had a raise like they have never seen so they are blinded........They don't realize that Canale didn't do anything so special to get it for them. The votes will be hard pressed here because it's back to the LOCAL and not at the Airport like the TA was..........

CLT you are the BIG link to the end of all this BS.............DO US ALL A FAVOR AND VOTE ! VOTE ND08..........And Lets Close the last chapter of this POS!!