New Catering Packout

[lovinglcc]

As an observer it doesn't seem all that different to me. Typical I.K.E (I Know Everything) from the dominate management team ie HP.

This like nearly everything else could have been handled better and used as a morale/team building experience.

Have a nice crosssection of F/A's both East and West meet and have the vairious types of carts and let the team reach a consensus as to how best to do the packouts. Give them a narrow time frame to complete the project and you teach divergent culture to share and find common ground. Fear dissapates, comraderie builds. But for an airline (ANY major airline) to do something like that will probably never happen because at no time have I EVER observed Management empower employees when it comes to procedure.

The uniform committee was a stunner but not an operations issue. Airline Management has all the answers just ask them, they'll tell you. And hey with their track record of billions in losses why shouldn't we believe them

Piney Bob -

What you don't realize is that when two or more flight attendants are gathered together - there will NEVER be a consenus. I promise that if DP came out tomorrow and gave 10% raises across the board, you'd hear employees griping - "it should have been 15%".

The flight attendants who are breaking things down and setting the cart back up the "old" way should at least try the new pack-outs. I used to hate granola, just based on the sight of it. But, once I tried it, I actually like the stuff, and eat it all the time.

 

[Whatnow?]

Tried it....doesn't work! One small square of dry ice sitting on top of 20 cans of beer WILL NOT KEEP ALL THE BEER COLD.....it will just FREEZE the 2 cans its sitting on! Also, not enough soft beverages and ice to go cross country....what Einstein sitting in some office came up with this idiotic procedure and can I ask WHY? Is it really gonna save millions of dollars? NOT! :down:

 

[airportman]

Piney Bob -

What you don't realize is that when two or more flight attendants are gathered together - there will NEVER be a consenus. I promise that if DP came out tomorrow and gave 10% raises across the board, you'd hear employees griping - "it should have been 15%".

The flight attendants who are breaking things down and setting the cart back up the "old" way should at least try the new pack-outs. I used to hate granola, just based on the sight of it. But, once I tried it, I actually like the stuff, and eat it all the time.

AGAIN I TRIED IT IT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL

 

[CLTBWIDAYSYR]

Have any of you had beer frozen solid yet? TPA put enough dry ice for a Halloween party on my liquor kit this past weekend and I had white wine and Heineken popsicles.

 

[USCREW]

Has anyone taken a really close look at the set-up picture? You'll see that the lemon and limes packet is still wrapped in cellophane and set in the coffee set-up straight-up on its side. Smart.

 

[SKY HIGH]

Have a nice crosssection of F/A's both East and West meet and have the vairious types of carts and let the team reach a consensus as to how best to do the packouts. Give them a narrow time frame to complete the project and you teach divergent culture to share and find common ground. Fear dissapates, comraderie builds.

sky high states: BINGO!! Another lost opportunity to build this airline "TOGETHER".
Was anyone from the EAST asked if this new procedure would work on the EAST Aircraft? More importantly, were any EAST FLIGHT ATTENDANTS asked, who know these galley's better then anyone else.

This merger is NOT different.

 

[UWCactus]

The Airbus packouts show "someone" REALLY has NO CLUE of what is taking place on an a/c. Ice bins placed waist high in carriers that are NOT chilled.....Bozo obviously doesn't think it will melt, BUT it Will! (And they are crazy to think I will be dumping the bins before the Tidal Wave comes cascading down the aisle.) And the elimination of the small Water bottles in F/C was "tried" before and when the pax protested the issue was addressed....many F/A's have already stated they will give out all the BIG bottles, so where is the savings? But yet the small bottle will be provisioned on the A321.....talk about inconsistent! Try explaining this to a pax that makes multiple connex on a diversified fleet<Int'l/Mainline/Shuttle/RJs and Express> It is NOT that difficult! :down:

The small bottle on the 321 will go away once reconfiguration takes place. Keep in mind, West FA's have always had ice buckets without "chillers", so it has been done, yes it melts, but you work with it.

Tried it....doesn't work! One small square of dry ice sitting on top of 20 cans of beer WILL NOT KEEP ALL THE BEER COLD.....it will just FREEZE the 2 cans its sitting on! Also, not enough soft beverages and ice to go cross country....what Einstein sitting in some office came up with this idiotic procedure and can I ask WHY? Is it really gonna save millions of dollars? NOT! :down:

Again..this has been the case on the West for many years. Yes occasionally the beer if frozen and occassionaly the beer is warm, but generally the dry ice works well. You will see FA's offer to ice down beer for a customer when they notice that a section of the beer may not be cold enough.

 

[USCREW]

.....Yes occasionally the beer if frozen and occassionaly the beer is warm, but generally the dry ice works well. You will see FA's offer to ice down beer for a customer when they notice that a section of the beer may not be cold enough.....




Very Mickey Mouse.

 

[N965VJ]

Let’s just pour the warm beer in a cup of ice.

A buddy of mine’s ex-wife used to drink it that way.

Aliquippa style!

 

[USCREW]

Let’s just pour the warm beer in a cup of ice.

A buddy of mine’s ex-wife used to drink it that way.

Aliquippa style!

Oh Miss,

I'll have a Rolling Rock over ice please, Thank-you.

 

[Whatnow?]

Yeah....works really well when you run out of B.O.B for the last 10 rows or more of the A/C and now they are getting a warm beer! there ya go! "Sorry, due to cost savings, except from our management, we can no longer afford to offer you an ice cold beer" "How about a Coke with no ice?.....we don't have enough of that either". Brilliant! How does it go...."The World's Largest Full Service Low Cost Carrier".....is that how it goes?

 

[UWCactus]

Yeah....works really well when you run out of B.O.B for the last 10 rows or more of the A/C and now they are getting a warm beer! there ya go! "Sorry, due to cost savings, except from our management, we can no longer afford to offer you an ice cold beer" "How about a Coke with no ice?.....we don't have enough of that either". Brilliant! How does it go...."The World's Largest Full Service Low Cost Carrier".....is that how it goes?

Wow, chill out man!! You're angry.

 

[USCREW]

Yeah....works really well when you run out of B.O.B for the last 10 rows or more of the A/C and now they are getting a warm beer! there ya go! "Sorry, due to cost savings, except from our management, we can no longer afford to offer you an ice cold beer" "How about a Coke with no ice?.....we don't have enough of that either". Brilliant! How does it go...."The World's Largest Full Service Low Cost Carrier".....is that how it goes?

We're going totally European. Warm beer and sodas. No deodorant, toothpaste, or shampoo. Natural is good.

 

[Whatnow?]

Wow, chill out man!! You're angry.

Not angry at all because it is quite comical and predictable. Just waiting for some good decisions to be made around here! I'm not the angry one....that would be the passengers! I pretty much have dusted off my blinders and went back to saying "I'm sorry" all over again....no sweat off my back.....just wish there were more positive things happening onboard our A/C so our passengers have a more enjoyable experience! B)

 

[USCREW]

I pretty much have dusted off my blinders and went back to saying "I'm sorry" all over again.... B)

I'm going to get a "I'M SORRY" stamp for my forehead. Should save some time.